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[ricorico]

my girlfriend is diabetic but just got put on new insulin and has a shit ton of "NOVOLOG" left over which im goin to take (already on HGH), question is i always read about bbers using humalog, just wwondreing if the 2 are interchangable

 

[mgoblue4you]

Sounds great to me. Novolog is even faster acting and is approximately 10% more potent than Humalog.

http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_treatments/insulin_humalog.php

 

[Makavelli]

If you've never used slin before I would go with a slower acting one to get used to it. With the faster acting slins if you fuck up it will be game over before you can act.

 

[missionpossible]

Read up as much as you can on using this. If you deceide to use it, start at 1iu and work your way up slowly. Dont forget the immediate consumption of 10g fast acting carbs (sugar, dextrose) for every 1iu of slin and then a balanced meal 1 hour after slin to include slower acting carbs and protein. Stay away from fats before and after your slin to prevent from getting fat too.

 

[Kachunga]

If you've never used slin before I would go with a slower acting one to get used to it. With the faster acting slins if you fuck up it will be game over before you can act.

WORD.....

 

[acneman]

If you've never used slin before I would go with a slower acting one to get used to it. With the faster acting slins if you fuck up it will be game over before you can act.

i disagree
the longer the insulin is active is generally a corelation to its danger for most people. if you understand what your doing and prepare correctly the main danger is the suprise spike of slin activity when you think the drug has run its course. in the article linked above by MGoBlue4You the diabetics who switched to the faster acting insulins felt more in control and they didnt have the suprise insulin spikes
if you take a fast acting insulin you better take the carbs right then and not later
go to http://www.basskilleronline.com/insulin.shtml and read acnemans insulin faq and pay close attention to the safety section and get back with us if you decide to use

i and others can give you tips and ideas on this thread but that will not do
read every slin article on basskillers site and get back to us with a plan before you start

 

[BigCracker]

Invest in sume sugary candy like Smarties and keep them with you at all times just in case you start to feel dizzy. This could actually save your life if you wind up stranded somewhere in the middle of nowhere.

 

[BigCracker]

Oh yeah, definitely do not go to sleep after you take your slin for at least 4 hrs or so. If you fall asleep too soon w/o having enough carbs you could go into a diabetic coma/insulin shock(in your sleep) and die.

 

[missionpossible]

i disagree
the longer the insulin is active is generally a corelation to its danger for most people. if you understand what your doing and prepare correctly the main danger is the suprise spike of slin activity when you think the drug has run its course. in the article linked above by MGoBlue4You the diabetics who switched to the faster acting insulins felt more in control and they didnt have the suprise insulin spikes
if you take a fast acting insulin you better take the carbs right then and not later
go to http://www.basskilleronline.com/insulin.shtml and read acnemans insulin faq and pay close attention to the safety section and get back with us if you decide to use

i and others can give you tips and ideas on this thread but that will not do
read every slin article on basskillers site and get back to us with a plan before you start

reading and understanding all the information in both of these links from acneman and basskiller is the most impartant thing you can do before you get started with slin. Like acneman said, after you do all your reading get back on here and let everyone know what your doing and if you have any questions at all post them up before you get going.

 

[CO B-man]

Oh yeah, definitely do not go to sleep after you take your slin for at least 4 hrs or so. If you fall asleep too soon w/o having enough carbs you could go into a diabetic coma/insulin shock(in your sleep) and die.

Thats just a minor point

 

[ricorico]

thanks guys, im in a rush right now but will give u all K when i get back from dinner

 

[get456]

EF member VASCULARITY is pretty well versed in slin usage... may want to shoot him a PM

 

[BigCracker]

Thats just a minor point

Yeah, side effects like death are trivial to me.

 

[big_boy_1]

my girlfriend is diabetic but just got put on new insulin and has a shit ton of "NOVOLOG" left over which im goin to take (already on HGH), question is i always read about bbers using humalog, just wwondreing if the 2 are interchangable

It is at least equally fast acting as humalog, if not faster.

Be careful with insulin, start with some 2 IU and increase by 1 IU each 2 workouts. When you feel slight hypoglycemia symptoms, back off by 2 IU.
One week after you can try to increase 1 or 2 IU as some slight insulin resistance develops with time.

Have plenty powdered glucose handy AT ALL TIMES in case of hypoglycemia.

 

[CO B-man]

Yeah, side effects like death are trivial to me.

Thats what I am sayin. We all have to die sometime! need to worry about important things like not getting bitch tits while you are alive. When dead, who cares?

 

[acneman]

Invest in sume sugary candy like Smarties and keep them with you at all times just in case you start to feel dizzy. This could actually save your life if you wind up stranded somewhere in the middle of nowhere.

Oh yeah, definitely do not go to sleep after you take your slin for at least 4 hrs or so. If you fall asleep too soon w/o having enough carbs you could go into a diabetic coma/insulin shock(in your sleep) and die.

both good points
glucose tabs are at every pharm and work well

It is at least equally fast acting as humalog, if not faster.

Be careful with insulin, start with some 2 IU and increase by 1 IU each 2 workouts. When you feel slight hypoglycemia symptoms, back off by 2 IU.
One week after you can try to increase 1 or 2 IU as some slight insulin resistance develops with time.

Have plenty powdered glucose handy AT ALL TIMES in case of hypoglycemia.

i disagree with increasing until hypo symptoms occur
heres how i feel about it...

How much insulin should I take?

I recommend never using over 10IU. 10IU is enough to make you grow.
In general Dosages used are usually 1 IU per 20 pounds of lean bodyweight. So a 220lb bodybuilder with 9% body-fat would use 10iu of insulin(aprox200lb lean mass/20 = 10iu). But even experienced insulin users shouldn't use max dosage at the beginning of an insulin cycle. First-time users should start at a low dosage and gradually work up. For example, first begin with 2 IU and then increase the dosage by 1 IU every consecutive workout until you reach your calculated dose or determine a maximum personal dose(some people are more sensitive to insulin sides like hypoglycemia). This will allow the athlete to determine a dosage he can safely use. Insulin dosages can vary significantly among athletes and are dependent upon insulin sensitivity and the use of other drugs. Athletes using growth hormone and thyroid might have higher insulin requirements.

 

[Makavelli]

i disagree
the longer the insulin is active is generally a corelation to its danger for most people. if you understand what your doing and prepare correctly the main danger is the suprise spike of slin activity when you think the drug has run its course. in the article linked above by MGoBlue4You the diabetics who switched to the faster acting insulins felt more in control and they didnt have the suprise insulin spikes
if you take a fast acting insulin you better take the carbs right then and not later
go to http://www.basskilleronline.com/insulin.shtml and read acnemans insulin faq and pay close attention to the safety section and get back with us if you decide to use

i and others can give you tips and ideas on this thread but that will not do
read every slin article on basskillers site and get back to us with a plan before you start

The point I'm making is that Humulin R comes on gradually so if you fucked up you will start to feel it and make adjustments. It peaks around 1 hour and 45 minutes to 2 hours with the first wave coming 30 minutes after the injection. Humalog hits you in about 10-15 minutes. Meaning if you fucked up there's not a lot of time to make adjustments. If you know what you are doing then by all means humalog is easier to control. However this is a person that doesn't have experience.

 

[ricorico]

well, before i was able to get back to this to see what u guys said i got a recommendation to start at 4ius, so i took 4 ius immediatly post workout and then chugged 80grams dextrose, 10 grams creatine and 60 grams of protien, and an hour after that i had a turkey on whole wheat bread sandwich and an apple. i felt fine, but next time im goin to just do 2 ius and work my way up to 6 or 7, im playin it on the safe side. im only gonna take it after maybe 3 or 4 of my 6 workouts per week (the more lagging bodyparts). hopefully it works well, thanks for the hel[p

im also on test prop, var and GH

 

[ricorico]

i think i may carry around her extra glucometer too, test my blood every 30 mins to see if im gonna go hypo