Insulin and HGH

[jdevlin1985]

hello guys! i am thinking about insulin and HGH after my cutting cycle - i am aware of the effects and how dangerous insulin can be if misused. I was maybe thinking of 3 IU HGH every few days and 2 IU of insulin every day.

Have any of you guys had any experiences using this stack? If so is all the hype regarding results all what it makes out to be or would i be better off spending the cash on roids alone giving better results over the long run?

Thanks

 

[BionicBC]

hello guys! i am thinking about insulin and HGH after my cutting cycle - i am aware of the effects and how dangerous insulin can be if misused. I was maybe thinking of 3 IU HGH every few days and 2 IU of insulin every day.

Have any of you guys had any experiences using this stack? If so is all the hype regarding results all what it makes out to be or would i be better off spending the cash on roids alone giving better results over the long run?

Thanks

Its safe if properly researched and used. Ill still tell you thouigh, insulin makes me feeel STRANGE fora n hour or so after I take it. I did 10iu last night after my workout, and immediately took in 80g carbs, 35g protein, along with creatine mono/ CEE, glutamine, and NO2. Still feel hypo for awhile after, slightly sick to stomach, just STRANGE. Im also on 3iu HGH daily, 25mg dbol, 60mg var, 37.5mg T3, Sust/Prop, blah blah blah.....
So it CAN be done safely, but in all truth, insulin scares me EVEN though I know what im doing.
Bionic

 

[jdevlin1985]

Thanks for response bud. That sounds a heavy cycle! How long have you been on cycle and how are sides?

I am o T3 at mo (clen/t3/winny) and was thinking maybe lengthen T3 cycle for more than 6weeks so i can continue whilst on insulin HGH cycle - what is your feedback as ive heard that T3 should not be taken for than 6weeks at time....maybe will keep fat gains to a min due to insulin....have you noticed any fat gains yourself?

 

[BionicBC]

Thanks for response bud. That sounds a heavy cycle! How long have you been on cycle and how are sides?

I am o T3 at mo (clen/t3/winny) and was thinking maybe lengthen T3 cycle for more than 6weeks so i can continue whilst on insulin HGH cycle - what is your feedback as ive heard that T3 should not be taken for than 6weeks at time....maybe will keep fat gains to a min due to insulin....have you noticed any fat gains yourself?

A little but but that is a matter f figuring out how many carbs per iu of insulin you need, Too many=you get fat. Too few=you die. 8g per iu of slin works well for me. T3 does help keep the fat off, and helps with protein synthesis. Also has a good synergistic effect with the GH and Slin. I wouldnt run it longer than 6 weeks-in fact, i do 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off. Slin most dont run longer than 4 weeks at a time, i go 2 or 3 on, then equal time off. I would only do that a couple of times every 6 months or so though.
PS- I am also adding winny for the last 6 weeeks of my cycle @ 75mg ed.
Bionic

 

[jdevlin1985]

Phwoa fella you must be gigantic! you do 4 weeks on/off with T3...Isnt that dangerous with regards to thyroid function ?!? How are the results coming along anyway? Do you think that there is to much hype with regards to HGH? With your experiences do you think it is worth it? considering the fact that you could drop dead at any time i.e with the insulin

 

[BionicBC]

Phwoa fella you must be gigantic! you do 4 weeks on/off with T3...Isnt that dangerous with regards to thyroid function ?!? How are the results coming along anyway? Do you think that there is to much hype with regards to HGH? With your experiences do you think it is worth it? considering the fact that you could drop dead at any time i.e with the insulin

I wouldnt go so far as to say I could drop dead at anytime from the slin.... Yea, if I didnt know how to use it properly, it could kill me,but believe me, i dont just junp into this shit w/o researching all areas of attack first. Plus, my g/f is a RN whose grandmother was a diabetic, so she knows all the warning signs. LOL she's the best, she's even running 10mg var, 1iu hgh, and 25mcg T3 ed....
This is my first run of hgh so i cant give any definate opinions on that yet. Im not expacting a lot of muscle gain from it, using it more for fat-loss, and to hopefully get some synergy of the test/gh/slin/T3 together, thats supposedly where the true benefits of HGH come in.
I do 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off with the T3 twice, then i stop for a few months. I dont do this year round bro, cmon. Not tryin to be another Frank Zane. I have gone as high as 125mcg, but now i dont go above 75mcg daily, because while im running T3 i usually add clen 1 week on, 1 week off at 120mcg ed and get another synergestic effect. Most run clen for 2 weeks at a time, but for me it stops taking effect after a week IMO-But thats just me.
Im not saying this stack is for the average person, and im not lying to myself saying that it isnt hurting my body in some way, but i do what I can to minimize the effects. 2 gallons of water without fail every day, probably 24oz cranberry juice, 6 tylers liver detox a day, 1000-2000mg milk thistle, exc exc.
TO each his own.

 

[jdevlin1985]

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Of course absolutley - i have done alot of research with regards to insulin and HGH of course but just a bit nervous with all respect to insulin. My granmother was also diabetic and my mother is also and i know that it can run in the genes and there could be a slight chance also that i could become one myself which can increase the risk further with the use of insulin for reasons other than medical. Also i am still in adelesance and i hear HGH can increase growth i.e. height - i know this is slighlty going off the subject but do you think this is poss as i know it is very powerful. I am 5'10'' at mo - advised apprciated

 

[BionicBC]

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Of course absolutley - i have done alot of research with regards to insulin and HGH of course but just a bit nervous with all respect to insulin. My granmother was also diabetic and my mother is also and i know that it can run in the genes and there could be a slight chance also that i could become one myself which can increase the risk further with the use of insulin for reasons other than medical. Also i am still in adelesance and i hear HGH can increase growth i.e. height - i know this is slighlty going off the subject but do you think this is poss as i know it is very powerful. I am 5'10'' at mo - advised apprciated

I think that it is quite possible that the idea that insulin use can cause Diabetes is a myth.... but let's not take any chances, huh?
As far as the growth factor of hgh increasing height, i would say this is very possible, maybe even probable. Keep in mind, though, for children treated with hgh for height problems, they are given MUCH higher doses than your average bodybuilder is taking. Im not sure, but i want to say somewhere in the range of 14-20iu at a time-im not positive on those exact numbers so dont quote me, but i know its a lot higher than the 3-4iu daily im taking. My boy ATLMuscles, who is a member on this site, did tell me that after 6 months or so of hgh use, his shoe size went up from a 12 to a 13.... no joke... I know he's using more than me, but still not in the typical treatment range of burn victims/stunted growth kids on hgh.
Hope this helps.
Bionic