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Inquiries on r-ala

i was recently reading up on R ALA and im interested in taking it solely for fat burning. I am very insulin resistant so I have always had the best results in fat loss with keto type of diets. I was wondering if one can achieve the same results as you you would keto dieting by just taking one r ala cap per 30 to 50 grams of carbs you ingest. Will you get the same results as you would ketoing??Im interested in buying this product for fat loss but I wanted to get clear on this first. Does it really help one loose fat...the same as keto dieting??or does it just help build muscle??What kind of fat loss have you bros experienced with R ala??If i wanted to create a diet for strict fat loss around rala, what type of nutrients would i consume??what ratios of fat, carbs and protein to make it as if i was doing a keto diet???
 
"I was wondering if one can achieve the same results as you you would keto dieting by just taking one r ala cap per 30 to 50 grams of carbs you ingest."

Glucose is what your body makes out of the carbohydrates you eat. Then your insulin shuttles that glucose around your body to the cells to use as food. r-ALA makes your muscle cells accept several times more glucose than you do now. By causing the muscle cells to take up so much more glucose you are preventing it from going to the fat cells. That way you are helping to make your muscles stronger while preventing all that glucose from going to your fat cells. When your fat cells get the glucose it makes you fat and over time may eventually cause insulin resistance, leading to adult onset diabetes.



r-ALA taken before carb meals, insures those carbs are disposed of properly into your muscles helping you to maintain healthy low insulin levels, which is a powerful aid in preventing you from getting fat or insulin resistant.
 
but will it work in causing fat loss the same way following a ketogenic diet would???Lets suppose you cut calories..but still ingest carbs, will it still cause the kind of fat loss a keto type of diet would because of the lack of insulin in the body??Does it stop insulin this much????I ask this because the diet i best react to is ketogenic type of diets and i wanted to know if i could achieve sort of the same results from dieting and taking r-ala. what do you guys think
 
Michael Corleone 21 said:
but will it work in causing fat loss the same way following a ketogenic diet would???yes Lets suppose you cut calories..but still ingest carbs, will it still cause the kind of fat loss a keto type of diet would because of the lack of insulin in the body??yes Does it stop insulin this much????yes I ask this because the diet i best react to is ketogenic type of diets and i wanted to know if i could achieve sort of the same results from dieting and taking r-ala. what do you guys think

yes, that is what most users report.. which is in line with what is expected with lower insulin levels.. which if you read the keto books is the entire point of ketosis.
 
has anyone used r-ala in conjunction with a keto type diet??What has been some of the weightloss people have experienced just by taking r-ala??Im very excited about trying this new supplement and id like to hear what results people have had with it in terms of pure fat loss??
 
I can assume that this is borne out by anecdotal reports coming in fonze? since in the studies you post, it inidcates that r-ala stimulates glucose uptake in fat cells as well as muscle and that there are >10X the number or transporters in the fat cells.

jb


ulter said:
"I was wondering if one can achieve the same results as you you would keto dieting by just taking one r ala cap per 30 to 50 grams of carbs you ingest."

Glucose is what your body makes out of the carbohydrates you eat. Then your insulin shuttles that glucose around your body to the cells to use as food. r-ALA makes your muscle cells accept several times more glucose than you do now. By causing the muscle cells to take up so much more glucose you are preventing it from going to the fat cells. That way you are helping to make your muscles stronger while preventing all that glucose from going to your fat cells. When your fat cells get the glucose it makes you fat and over time may eventually cause insulin resistance, leading to adult onset diabetes.



r-ALA taken before carb meals, insures those carbs are disposed of properly into your muscles helping you to maintain healthy low insulin levels, which is a powerful aid in preventing you from getting fat or insulin resistant.
 
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If r-ALA increases uptake into the fat cells it wouldn't make any difference. The glucose is going to end up in the fat cells with or without r-ALA. It has nowhere else to go. The trick is to have the muscle cells take up more glucose so the fat cells don't get it.
The anecdotal evidence by Fonz is great but it is one of 100's of cases on this board. I don't have to post the results of all the people who posted about r-ALA it's already here on dozens of threads. Here are a few though.


Sofageorge
r-ALA has turned me into a complete diet slob. Maybe I respond to it too well. I don't have to be careful at all now about what I eat.

Yesterday's lunch was a jumbo hotdog smothered with everything... two slices of peperroni pizza... and a jumbo hand dipped icecream bar rolled in nuts. I'm eating like this every day... and r-ALA is easily holding me in the 8% bodyfat range.



Huckleberryfinaplex
Been on it for a few days now.Muscles already feeling pumped.This morning,I made a mistake. I took 500mgs with nothing but a Met-Rx protein plus bar(low carb/sugar content).I nearly passed out.Got very lightheaded and dizzy.Hypo-city.Sort of reminds me of how DNP makes me feel on lower carbs,lol.Definitely very potent stuff at regulating insulin.


rj420

I just started it last week and it was working great... until I fucked up my back and now I can't train.AHHHHHHHH

Definitely could see the nootropic effect as well. Great, underated product.

Frackal

R-ala for me has been superior in body composition changes, and keeping me from holding alot of water, when I stop r-ala in between shipments I look pretty crappy...r-ala pretty much keeps me at a good level of leaness maybe 2%bf less than I would be if everythign was the same otherwise.

gUiLe

I read a lot of people talk about the lack of the "Hypo" feeling/effect while using R-ala. I have used ALA MANY times in the past and have felt it many times. This morning, I took 400mg
of R-ala post cardio with a whey shake and oatmeal. I am STILL feeling hypo!!! This seems to be some potent stuff...

Ceebs

I experimented with various amounts over my last 2-day refeed, and found that small amounts frequently (100-200 mg every 2-3 hours) worked "better" than larger amounts less frequently (400 mg every 4-6 hours). On the day when I took the smaller amounts frequently, I got fewer symptoms of hypoglycemia, my strength was up, and I just felt better mentally.

FitFossil

To get back on topic... As far as the r-ALA goes I love it. I can eat carbs at night and wake up w/ abs crisp not watery. Also, carbs don't make my sleepy like they used to. The regular ALA sometimes made my feel shaky (and made my pee smell funny). I just ordered more bottles.

Spatts

I recently started using R-ala, which decreases my sensitivity to carbs, and have cut WAY back on protein intake as a result.
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…I remained in a mild state of ketosis (according to keto strips) while taking in a variety of high glycemic carbs.

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I have only been using it for 3 days, but it's the only 3 days in the last 27 years that I've been able to eat carbs WITHOUT falling asleep. I'm suddenly not hyper sensitive to carbs, and I'm loving it.

ulter
It's time for some of the slower people at other boards to get a clue. Everyone who has a problem with carbs before they use r-ALA solves it with r-ALA.
 
but if it causes glucose absorption to the fat cells then that will make you fat no???Does taking r-ala work in terms of fat loss in the same way that ketogenic dieting does??Im not doubting anything people are posting, Im just curious as to what extent it blocks insulin from shuttling carbs to the fat cells...I mean does it prevent most if not all carbs from being shuttled to your fat cells...or does it just prevent a certain amount??
 
the study quoted by jbold uses isolated cell lines.. it is not indicative of the actual effects in a organic system. Merely that there is the ability to affect that PARTICULAR line of adipocytes. The study as well as the findings have little, if any, use with respect to dieitng users. There may be some translation for "bulkers".. however anecdotal reports hold this NOT to be the case.

There have been no user reports of fat gain. reduction of insulin allows for greater GH effectiveness, greater lipolytic window, less adipose uptake of both carbs and fat..etc..etc

basically lowering insulin while maintaining sensitivity has a very postive impact on fat loss.
 
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