"In One Year, Tony..."

[youngguns]

The add for Chemical Wizardry that has 3 pictures of Tony. Comment on what you think about this. Is it possible to get from that small to that large and ripped in one year??? Any comments are welcome.

 

[medical]

I bury the cockaroaches

 

[youngguns]

yes...

 

[BigPun81]

12 months of proper training, diet, a really nice cycle, and proper tanning too could probably have those effects on you.

 

[youngguns]

I wonder what his cycle was.

 

[youngguns]

12 months of proper training, diet, a really nice cycle, and proper tanning too could probably have those effects on you.

whats "a really nice cycle"?

 

[DBBT]

whats "a really nice cycle"?

1g Test E
800 deca
6-800 eq

 

[galaxy]

Dont forget the dbol.

 

[DBBT]

Dont forget the dbol.

true

 

[DBBT]

The add for Chemical Wizardry that has 3 pictures of Tony. Comment on what you think about this. Is it possible to get from that small to that large and ripped in one year??? Any comments are welcome.

its genetics to bro, some people can take 250mg of Test and make you look like greg louganis Some people have to take 4 times that much to make them look like guys on here that are natty.--me being one of them that looks natty

 

[youngguns]

if you took out the d bol and eq would is be good for your first?

 

[20ss02]

if you took out the d bol and eq would is be good for your first?

Why take out the dbol and EQ? It is my opinion (and a few others on this board) that many first cycles are too light. My first was in 2000 - 750mg/sust (front loaded with 1 gram for 2 weeks), 400mg/EQ and 40mg/dbol. You have one shot at your first cycle - do it right

 

[DBBT]

if you took out the d bol and eq would is be good for your first?

no no no

First cycle you don't want to run a bunch of stuff like that, i didn't know it was ur first.


400-500mg Test E or Cyp will give you noticeable gains, add in 30-40mg dbol for the first 3-4 weeks and then just get you PCT straightened out and that's all I'd do for the first

Second you can throw in deca 300mg and see how you respond.

Don't hop on a ton of gear you have to work your way up, it doesn't work like that. You may respond very well with that first cycle, you'll be surprised. Your second cycle you may even keep the dosages the same. Upping dose is for plateau points. You're stuck at 205lbs. Up the dose a little your next cycle.

 

[galaxy]

See i dont buy into that whole first cycle stuff. When i threw in 100mgs of dbol into the mix it was better than my first cycle by far.

Id just go with 400mgs test and 200mgs deca for a first and if you must stay on i would cruise with some Eq and proviron then up the test for your next and deca and add some dbol to the mix, but thats a few months down the road from your first.

 

[youngguns]

I was thinking 1gram test e for 12 weeks and dbol at 40mg for the first 4? will that yeild very keepable gains?>

 

[galaxy]

Thats way too much. Like dbbt said, you dont even know what youll experience for sides. You need to ease your way into it. Dont worry the gains will come and come fast even on 250mgs of test a week. Just ease into it bro.

 

[DBBT]

I was thinking 1gram test e for 12 weeks and dbol at 40mg for the first 4? will that yeild very keepable gains?>

i guess I'm conservative, but as i look back doing a test/deca stack at low dose wouldn't be the worst thing you ever did for a first if you are dying to do it...i just liked knowing how i reacted to test alone, and then when i added deca the second cycle, and then when i added dbol, etc. I def. wouldn't hop on a gram though, you're looking to get big on steroids alone, it won't work. There are MANY other factors to figure in. You need to research PCT also, keepable gains lol, oh man that gets asked too much

 

[youngguns]

i guess I'm conservative, but as i look back doing a test/deca stack at low dose wouldn't be the worst thing you ever did for a first if you are dying to do it...i just liked knowing how i reacted to test alone, and then when i added deca the second cycle, and then when i added dbol, etc. I def. wouldn't hop on a gram though, you're looking to get big on steroids alone, it won't work. There are MANY other factors to figure in. You need to research PCT also, keepable gains lol, oh man that gets asked too much

Yes I know it does, but if I keep my diet great and everything. Also, Maybe i should take 500mg test and the same d-bol?..40mg for 4 weeks? I really want to do a gram but

 

[DBBT]

Yes I know it does, but if I keep my diet great and everything. Also, Maybe i should take 500mg test and the same d-bol?..40mg for 4 weeks? I really want to do a gram but

ok im done after this, do 500mg Test. you want dbol, do it. You'll likely get high blood pressure at anything at or above 40-50mg ed dbol. May I suggest an AI? AIFM. After 6 weeks you'll know if this dose was more than enough, you should get very strong and put on some size.

 

[youngguns]

alright 500mg of test e it is. are we talking about the test before more than enough or dbol..?

 

[mr.nitro]

I can't deal with deca over 400mg. limp dick for sure

 

[BigCracker]

I was thinking 1gram test e for 12 weeks and dbol at 40mg for the first 4? will that yeild very keepable gains?>

Please define "keepable gains"

LMFAO!

 

[youngguns]

Please define "keepable gains"

LMFAO!

Gains that if I work hard and do everything possible to keep them won't leave?

 

[mlmdpump]

Buy A.R.'s eBook. It will help educate you on best compound/cycles as well as level set you on "keepable gains" etc. It's worth the investment.