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Impotent for several weeks

body_conscious

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I am writing to this forum because it finally hit me. I am fucking bummed about not getting erections.

Since I finished my deca-test cycle at least 2 months ago I have been gradually losing my libido and erections. Also, my balls have gotten small.

I took clomid after my deca-test cycle and continue to do so, but nothing has changed.

I have been taking Viagra but it does not seem to work any more.

Has anyone had the same experience? Did the problem gradually go away? Is there anything one can do to regain one's virility?
 
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they call it deca dick. i wasn't sure i wanted to ever try deca because of what i keep reading. but i'm running 600mgs per week and not haveing any troubles.

yes, it will go away. takes some ppl longer than others.

but if it's been over two months, there is prbly other factors contributing to your problems.
 
I started taking clomid about 2-3 weeks before finishing my sust-deca cyle.

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If what I have is deca dick, how long does it take for the side effect to go away?

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body_conscious said:
I started taking clomid about 2-3 weeks before finishing my sust-deca cyle.
This isn't correct. Please post your entire Clomid therapy. If you want intelligent replies you must supply all details. Mgs each day, and for how long.
 
Deca shuts down the HPTA very hard. I would run another clomid cycle and hope for the best. Proviron will help now. Viagra only helps when you are aroused, it doesnt get you horny.
 
I started taking Clomid about 2 weeks before the end of the deca-test cycle. 50mg/day for approx. 3 weeks.

About 2 weeks ago and 1 week into my new sustenon/andriol cycle I started taking Clomid again because I thought I still needed it. 100/mg or more a day.
 
Clomid wont work while you have gear in you, you must wait untill it all leaves your system. Clomid during a cycle is useless as its anti estrogen effects are weak!
 
body_conscious said:
I started taking Clomid about 2 weeks before the end of the deca-test cycle. 50mg/day for approx. 3 weeks.

About 2 weeks ago and 1 week into my new sustenon/andriol cycle I started taking Clomid again because I thought I still needed it. 100/mg or more a day.
If you use Clomid while still having high concentrations of AAS in your system it will do nothing. So it's as if you did no Clomid therapy.

Even after your last inject of Deca you need to wait 3 weeks for it to clear your system before starting Clomid.

This is how we normally take Clomid ...
300mgs day one ...
100mgs everyday for the next ten days ...
50mgs for the final ten days.
However when we use Deca an additional 10 days at 50mgs everyday is recommended due to Deca so throughly shutting down natural test production.
 
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That means you only ran clomid for a week after you stopped the cycle? The deca would still be in your system for another two weeks after you finished your clomid regime if you did it that way. Thus you're still shut down. I would do the normal clomid regime again. 300mg the first day then 100mg for the next 2 weeks. After that do 50mg for the last week. Hell all it can do is help
 
This is the last time I will ask for details. How long did you wait after ending your last cycle before starting this new one?
 
Genarr

I started my current sust cycle about 2 months after finishing the test-deca cyle.

I started taking Clomid about 2 weeks before the end of the deca-test cycle. 50mg/day for 3 weeks. About 2 weeks ago and 1 week into my new sustenon/andriol cycle I started taking Clomid again because I thought I still needed it. 100/mg or more a day.

It sounds like I am not taking enough clomid.
 
when u finish the sus and andriol cycle. after 2 weeks of sus last injection. use HCG 5000 IU twice with 4 or 5 day difference. along with HCG start nolvadex @ 20mg/day and clomid @ 100 mg/day for 6 weeks. this is most likely to get u back in action.
BarPk
 
There's a red flag waving here. I haven't heard you mention an anti-E once... unless I skimmed over it.

Some people are FAR more sensative to estrogen than others, and test aromatizes to estrogen.

This is why even DHEA and androstindione can be a problem. About 25% of users have them go straight to the estrogen pathways and they end up with limp noodles.
 
body_conscious said:
Genarr

I started my current sust cycle about 2 months after finishing the test-deca cyle.

I started taking Clomid about 2 weeks before the end of the deca-test cycle. 50mg/day for 3 weeks. About 2 weeks ago and 1 week into my new sustenon/andriol cycle I started taking Clomid again because I thought I still needed it. 100/mg or more a day.

It sounds like I am not taking enough clomid.
Well no not enough Clomid, but more importantly, not at the correct time.
What I think you should do is end your current cycle, wait 3 weeks<It'll be that long till all the Sustenon clears your system>, and then do the Clomid therapy as I posted previously with the additional 10 days like we do for Deca.
Now of course you could continue the cycle if you wish, but I'm a pussy about the health of my HTPA and that's what I would do.

As for HCG, have you experienced testicular shrinkage?
 
Originally posted by The Iron Game
Clomid: Frequently Asked Questions

Something I put together that may help some of the new comers out there as well as some of the more experienced.

Question: What is Clomid?

Answer: Clomid is a synthetic estrogen and is generally prescribed by doctors to trigger ovulation in females.

Question: Why Should Bodybuilders use Clomid?

Answer: Almost all anabolic androgenic steroids will cause an inhibition of the bodies own testosterone production. When he comes off the steroids he has no natural test production and no more steroids. The body is left in a state of catabolism (catabolic hormones are high and anabolic hormones are low) and as a result much of the muscle tissue that was gained on the cycle is now going to be lost. Clomid stimulates the hypophysis to release more gonadotropin so that a faster and higher release of follicle stimulating hormone aud luteinizing hormone occurs. This results in an increase of the body's own testosterone production.

Question: Does Clomid also work as an anti estrogen?

Answer: Clomid is a synthetic estrogen, however it does also work as an anti-estrogen. How does it work? Because it is a weak synthetic estrogen, it will bind to the estrogen receptor (ER) and not cause any problems. At the same time the increase in estrogen from steroids are blocked from attaching to the ER.

Question: How effective is Clomid as an anti-estrogen?

Answer: It is very weak and should not be relied upon if you are going to be using steroids that aromatise at any rapid rate, or if you are pre disposed to gyno. Arimidex, Proviron and Nolvadex will all make better choices for this purpose.

Question: Some say Clomid during a cycle is a waste, is this true?

Answer: Lets first examine what happens when someone is using anabaolic androgenic steroids. When the level of androgens in the body get too high, the androgen receptor becomes more highly activated, and the hypothalamus stops sending a signal to the pituitary. In short the signal tells our body to stop producing testosterone. During a cycle the body has higher levels than normal of androgens and as long as this level is high enough clomid will not help to keep natural test production up. It will be almost all but completely shut off. The only purpose of clomid during a cycle is as an anti-estrogen.

Question: When do I start Clomid? Some say 2 weeks others 3.

Answer: When you start using your clomid all depends on what steroids you were using during your cycle. Different steroids have different half lifes and you should adjust your clomid intake accordingly. As we have seen above, if we take clomid when the androgen levels in our body is still high it will be a waste. We need to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing our clomid therapy. However if we take it too late we could possibly lose gains. Look at the list below to determine when you should start clomid therapy. By selecting from the list all the steroids you used in your cycle and which ever one has the latest starting point then go with that. For example if I cycled dbol, sustanon and winstrol I would use sustanon as it remains active in the body for the longest period of time.

Anadrol/Anapolan: 8 - 12 hours after last administration
Deca: 3 weeks after last injection and clomid for 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 17 – 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 10 – 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 3 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 2 weeks after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 4 – 8 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 8 – 12 hours after last administration

Question: What is the most effective way for Clomid therapy.

Answer: Clomid has a long half life and as such there is no need to split up doses throughout the day. I read some where that it was 5 days (any feedback on this). Now if we used sustanon and we start using clomid 3 weeks after our last injection we anticipate that androgen levels are low enough to start sending the correct signals. If androgen levels are still a little high then the normal 50mgs/day of clomid for 1 week is not going to be effective. We need to start at a high enough amount that will work or help even if androgen levels are still a little high. 300mgs on day 1. I know I said don’t split it up due to its long half life but try and split this up 2 tabs 3 times a day. After we have finished this first day we seek to use 100mgs for 10 days and then followed by 50mgs for 10 days.

Question: Do I need to use Clomid for 3 weeks?

Answer: Why don’t you want too? It is very cheap, very effective and can mean the difference between maintaining gains and losing them.

Question: How cheap is Clomid?

Answer: Clomid normally comes in 50mg tablets but also comes in capsule form of 25mgs. A 50mg tablet can be anywhere between 25 cents and $2.50. (15 pence and 75 pence in England).

Question: Do all steroids cause shut down of the hpta.

Answer: Not all steroids do. Everyone is different and you must also take into account how long you have been using a certain steroid and at what dose in order to determine if you need clomid or not. However as the price is so cheap, why risk not using it.

Peace

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it happens to me as well, i actually think that clomid doesnt work for me due to me never being able to get my dick hard til next cycle...but hey i take it anyway matter of fact i need to take 1 now
 
This is what you do. Complete this cycle the test in it should increase your libido. You need to run HCG mid cycle at 500ius ED for 2 weeks with arimidex all the way through. In the last 2 weeks of the cycle run 2 more weeks of HCG at the same dose. Wait 3 weeks from your last shot of Sus and start clomid, remember keep the arimidex going all the way through. Clomid doses are as follows: 300mg day 1, 100mg ED for the next 10 days, and 50mg ED for the last 10.

Summary: the HCG will increase LH, which will bring size back to the boys. Dont extend the HCG for longer than 2 weeks as it will countact what you just did. Doing at the end will give them another kick so they are more receptive to the clomid. The Arimidex will decrease your estrogen level so that clomid can do a better job. Dont worry now, unless you want to stop, but I think you will recover with this program.
 
Elite Mod

You're right about deca. I am not using that shit ever again!

What is vitex, by the way? Is it also a steroid, something you can get over the counter in the US, or is it something that requires a prescription...?
 
if you started clomid 2 weeks before the end of your test/deca cycle , that means you did clomid for 3 weeks while you were still on... test/deca was still in your system for another 2 weeks after you stopped clomid.. So it's as if you never even did clomid.

You could continue your current cycle that you started with a major recovery phase that's well planned out at the end.

1 week after your last shots start HCG (5,000-7,000 UI / week) for three weeks while taking 20mg nolvadex daily. Continue nolvadex for another 3 weeks after the 3 weeks of HCG at 20mg /day. This what DrJMW recommends, and for the people who go crazy when they hear about using nolvadex over clomid , please read this http://www.mindandmuscle.net/magazine/i6clomid.html
 
body_conscious said:
I am writing to this forum because it finally hit me. I am fucking bummed about not getting erections.

Since I finished my deca-test cycle at least 2 months ago I have been gradually losing my libido and erections. Also, my balls have gotten small.

I took clomid after my deca-test cycle and continue to do so, but nothing has changed.

I have been taking Viagra but it does not seem to work any more. It didn't work today for the first time --- and with someone I really like.

Has anyone had the same experience? Did the problem gradually go away? Is there anything you can do to regain virility?

Sorry Bro- I have heard of that happening but it has not happened to me... good luck
 
From all the responses I got it's clear that I need to lay off deca, and start taking clomid at the right time and with the right dosage.

Thanks, bros.
 
deca bad idea w/o clomid?

im getting my 2 100mL decas tonight but i dont have clomid and i have no idea of where to get it from. what do you guys think? should i risk it? i have never juiced before, this would be my first time, being that the deca needs to get out of your system before you take clomid anyway, even if i started the cycle now i wouldnt need the clomid for a while, but i still dont know where to get it from. do you guys think it would be really bad to do the cycle without it? is there anything else like it? HELP!!!!
 
NEVER start your cycle without your anciliaries. Let the gear sit on a shelf while you get hooked up...NEVER NEVER NEVER. Murpheys Law kicks in the minute you start gear without having all your anciliaries.

Trust me..you will start and they will ban and sieze all clomid nationwide the next week...just how Murphys Law works :D
 
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