**IMPORTANT QUESTION**, On prescribed test, also on fed probation, can I...?

[FreedomFighter]

Use test suspension?

Here's my complicated situation...
Im on fed probation and they DO test for juice via urine. Now, I just got back from my Doc and he has me on test cream (pure testosterone, compounded by a pharmacy) at 100mg per day. This is great. My natural test levels, after bloodwork, was tested at 123 nanograms. Normal range is from 280-1000. My doc is cool, he said that he'll get me at an optimal range, 1600 nanos! Which is way above normal ( I photocopied the paperwork stating that he would put me there....im covering my ass for probation)

Now, I get drug tested by my po atleast once a month. The labaratory, PharmChem, tests for EVERY known steroid including clen(I emailed them and they emailed me back with the full steriod panel), that's how I know for sure. (**READ AT BOTTOM BELOW**)

I am currently using the cream @ 100mg per day. Doc has written me a 90 day supply. I know that the ONLY additonal steroid that I can and would take, could ONLY be testosterone suspension. That's basically what the cream is, but not in a suspension base. I know that, according to Pharm Chems steroid panel, that they do not test for specific testosterones in the body. They can only test for test:epitest ratios. So theoretically, it would seem fine just to bulk up using lots of suspension (and only suspension) since I have a script. However, the only problem that I think I will have, even if he still decides to test me while I am on, is my test:epitest levels. My levels will be rasied ABOVE 6:1 if I am taking more than the 100mg per day, prescribed right? or wrong? Let's say that I dont even use the suspension, and use what;s prescribed. Will my levels increase above 6:1? The ONLY other way for them to know that my levels could exceed 1600 nanos, is through a blood test. And I know that this has to be court ordered. Im looking for some advice bros. If this sounds confusing, I'll try and clear it up.

Steroid Panel

Contents of Panel
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Bolasterone

Boldenone

Clenbuterol

Clostebol

Dihydrochloromethyl-te

Drostanolone

Ethylestrenol

Fluoxynesterone

Furaxabol

Mesterolone

Methenolone

Methandienone

Methandriol

Methyltestosterone

Nandrolone

Norethandrolone

Oxandrolone

Oxymesterone

Oxymetholone

Probenecid

Salbutamol

Stanozolol

T/Epi-T ratio

 

[SofaGeorge]

Bro, if your doctor is prescribing you test... you are clear... Period.

I used to work in the joint... I gave tousands of urine tests. You cannot 115 a guy for a prescribed med.

 

[mixwell]

Bro, if your doctor is prescribing you test... you are clear... Period.

I used to work in the joint... I gave tousands of urine tests. You cannot 115 a guy for a prescribed med.

what sofa said..you cant get busted for something that is prescribed to you...basically it is LEGAL for you to use, just dont let them find anything thats not prescribed to you

 

[serge]

i agree, i think its safe bet that you can crank as much test as you want now

 

[DrJMW]

As long as you can demonstrate a legitimate need (hypogonadism) for the Testos cream or other legitimate, FDA-approved AAS (via blood work, doc exam, etc), you are OK. Using AAS for performance enhancement--even if a doc is prescribing it for that purpose--is not justification and it may get you and your doc in trouble. So, just make sure your doc has evidence that you are truly hypogonadic.

 

[mixwell]

yeah dude, and talk to your doctor first, hes the one who should know the legalities etc concerning shit he prescribed for you...

 

[manny78]

It is legal and it would be against the laws to bust you for that. For example, in Canada denying someone's right to use a prescribed med is unconstitutional.

 

[stonecold54]

correct me if I am wrong but I think he is asking can he add in "unprescribed" test suspension along with his"prescribed" topical. and if he does will they be able to detect the suspension.

if it were me I would just wait till probation is done. why put your self at risk. look at it this way your test levels are already above normal with the topical so just work with that.

 

[FreedomFighter]

yea i know that i can crank up as much test suspension as i want cause test IS precribed , im just afraid that they can test HOW MUCH test is in my system via urine. I know they can thru blood (nanos) but what about urine?

I was once on probation a awhile ago and had Vicodin prescribed. The Doc said(a different doc) to take 2 Vics per day. Well, I was using them recreationally and was using about 5 a day. My po knew I had a script and still tested me specifically for hydrocodone(Vicodin). He then called me when the results came back. He said that, acording to the toxicologist at the lab, that I was taking way more than what was prescribed to me and that I must take only what is prescribed. They have ways of analyzing just how much of a drug you ingest. But i beleive that juice is different when it comes to this. Any more feedback is appreciated

 

[SofaGeorge]

yea i know that i can crank up as much test suspension as i want cause test IS precribed , im just afraid that they can test HOW MUCH test is in my system via urine. I know they can thru blood (nanos) but what about urine?

I was once on probation a awhile ago and had Vicodin prescribed. The Doc said(a different doc) to take 2 Vics per day. Well, I was using them recreationally and was using about 5 a day. My po knew I had a script and still tested me specifically for hydrocodone(Vicodin). He then called me when the results came back. He said that, acording to the toxicologist at the lab, that I was taking way more than what was prescribed to me and that I must take only what is prescribed. They have ways of analyzing just how much of a drug you ingest. But i beleive that juice is different when it comes to this. Any more feedback is appreciated

You can DEFINITELY test for concentration... that is standard... and a lot of guys would get a violation based on concentration. (i.e., if you test at 95 parts for THC on Friday... and then tested at 93 parts of THC on Saturday... you would get written for two separate use violations because even though Saturday's test was lower it didn't show the degree of lowering that would come if you stopped smoking pot on Friday... so the 93 test indicated you had lit a blunt on Saturday.)

You would be smarter to avoid the whole problem and just stick to the terms of your probation. Why be a dumb ass and screw around with it? (To be honest the guys who need to f-ck around with the terms of their parole reflect a high degree of immaturity and lack of impulse control. don't join that crowd. Life never gets better for them.)

 

[Corleone]

Why not just go with average Test amount and Tren? Tren's not on your list.