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Immigrants, Not Americans, Must Adapt.

mdd

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After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's license with her face covered this is an editorial written by an American citizen, published in a Tampa newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!




IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.

If you agree -- pass this along; if you don't agree -- delete it!

AMEN
 
Hmm... Kind of the your with us or against us attitude eh?

I can't say that I'm not proud to be an American... I am.. .but I can say that I'm not proud of many Americans. Many Americans think they are better than other people around the world... for some reason... that anyone in our country should do it OUR way...

I agree, to an extent... i.e., gotta get a drivers license to drive, must abide by our laws, etc.

But we DO believe in a freedom of religion... and it is in the Islamic faith (at least some denominaitons of it) for the women to have their faces covered. I would have NO problem with them covering their faces on drivers licenses... but I think they should submit a picture to the police departments or government or something (I'm sure they would have to if they became citizens) -- so that they could be matched up...

Speak our language our get out... Heh... I have to admit, I don't like it when I order food at Del Taco and they can't understand me... but I know MANY Latin Americans that are TRYING to learn English... they take courses... a friend of mine from Columbia, recently got her AMerican citizenship after about 7 years of living in this country.. she didn't speak a LICK of English when she got here... but has learned it pretty well (still thick accent)

We as Americans have to be more accepting of other cultures, it is closed minded thinking like this that will continue to set us back, as Americans and inhabitants of this world.

C-ditty
 
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they can start adapting by learning and using english. this aint there 3rd world piece of shit, they are in our house, and should live by our rules.
 
Sinistar said:
they can start adapting by learning and using english. this aint there 3rd world piece of shit, they are in our house, and should live by our rules.

I don't think I'll stand alone on this when I tell you that English is probably one of the hardest languages to learn. Not only in the words... but will all of the social metaphors... there are thousands and thousands of them.

Many Non-Americans who live here ARE trying to learn the language.. .but learning this language takes TIME. I mean... I had 2 YEARS of spanish in College and I STILL can't speak it well... (I know alot of words, but I can't hold a conversation outside of general chit chat).

It took my Columbian friend a YEAR to even get the language down where she could feel comfortable talking to people... she constantly mispells words and has much trouble understanding some aspects of our language (pronunciantion mostly)

There are some, I imagine, people who live in their communities and don't learn English... but you have to understand... alot of times, people don't know English well enough to express their thoughts... if you know about linguistics... when people have to say something, they will say it in their native tounge... :)

C-ditty
 
they let that Muslim chick do that? that's crazy. i'm going to get my license with a batman suit and mask on.

i'm forwarding this to everyone on my email list. good thread.
 
NOW ANY UNDERAGE MUSLUM CAN BY ALCOHOL, GUY OR GIRL CAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THEIR FACE.

IF YOUR GOING TO LIVE IN MY COUNTRY, LEARN THE DAMN LANGUAGE.

THEY ALL HUDDLE UP AND BUILD THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES AND CREATE THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. IF YOU TRY TO MOVE THEIR, IT'S LIKE....'I'M SORRY, THIS IS OUR AREA, YOU NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.'

GANG VIOLENCE ANYONE?? STUPID SEGREGATION BECAUSE THEY WON'T ADAPT
 
agreed, i do think basic literacy is needed, and i think it should be encouraged that a sucessful immigration procedure be bolstered by english speaking

and i also think the drivers license is bullshit....there are obvious reasons why it is a necessity for someone to have their face on the license. if she can;t, then its understandable, she has to realise that living in a foreign culture means that things she holds dear to her may not be acceptable in that culture. get her face on it, or get her son or something to drive her round.

but they shouldn;t have to abandon their culture, which the article doesnt say, but leans towards. it should be allowed to enrich the american one. its faults on both sides, with divisions in religion and colour separating interaction between people
 
I can't say how many times I have wished I knew Spanish. Damn I wish I knew Spanish.

I think we should make a better effort to encourage bilingualism here.

You guys know a good cheap way to learn conversational Spanish? I like the Spanish girls! The language also sounds pleasing to me.
 
distanced said:
NOW ANY UNDERAGE MUSLUM CAN BY ALCOHOL, GUY OR GIRL CAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THEIR FACE.

IF YOUR GOING TO LIVE IN MY COUNTRY, LEARN THE DAMN LANGUAGE.

THEY ALL HUDDLE UP AND BUILD THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES AND CREATE THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. IF YOU TRY TO MOVE THEIR, IT'S LIKE....'I'M SORRY, THIS IS OUR AREA, YOU NEED TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.'

GANG VIOLENCE ANYONE?? STUPID SEGREGATION BECAUSE THEY WON'T ADAPT

Muslims don't drink alcohol ... LOL

C-ditty
 
LOL, YOU THINK THEY ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE WHO ABIDE BY ALL THE LAWS OF ALLAH (MOHOMMAD)(POLESMOKERS). NO THERE ARE TONS OF MUSLUM PUNKS AND NOW THEY CAN ALL BY ALCOHOL.

THROW ON A VALE, AND USE A VALED LICENSE
 
distanced said:
LOL, YOU THINK THEY ARE ALL GOOD PEOPLE WHO ABIDE BY ALL THE LAWS OF ALLAH (MOHOMMAD)(POLESMOKERS). NO THERE ARE TONS OF MUSLUM PUNKS AND NOW THEY CAN ALL BY ALCOHOL.

THROW ON A VALE, AND USE A VALED LICENSE

Are you saying that now muslim terrorists can buy alcohol for minors and use the profit to fund terrorisim!! My God, you're onto something... we must start prohibition! :)

LOL

C-ditty
 
Exactly, we arent the ones with the problems they are. We need to stop thinking that we need to change to suit their needs. They are here for a reason, because we are the best country in the world. We arent the ones that need to change.
 
I do find that some of the politically correct crowd desperately needs to go fuck themselves... generally speaking of course....there are some valid reasns for some of it...such as breaking down barriers between cultures and such....
 
2Thick said:


LOL... you are probably the guy that writes graffiti like this:

infestation d'immigration

non!

Just frustrated that people refuse to speak my language, that they spit and shit on me because I am a Quebecois.
I see that everyday, arrogance by some immigrant that refuse our culture.

The Politically correct BS we have here.

98% of Quebec is christian but we have to bend for the sikth, Muslim, and a few other minorities because we oppress their faith! But when it touch most of the province we cant say anything we are call a racist.

When the STCUM as to give 25% of all new bus driver position to black, when they are not even 1% of the population, that piss me off.

When a jewish cry out loud the cross at the city hall oppress him and they should remove it, even if it was there for centuries.

When they cry to get out cross and Jesus out of OUR school but bring their scarfe, kirpan etc... But our dearh catholic who are 92% cant sing their Xmas songs in school because of them.


There hundred of examples like these
that are quite annoying.


call me a racist if you want, just it is enought! Just for your info two of my best friend are from syria, romania
and my gf is Muslim from Morocco.
:rolleyes:


322:bawling:
 
3Vandoo said:


non!

Just frustrated that people refuse to speak my language, that they spit and shit on me because I am a Quebecois.
I see that everyday, arrogance by some immigrant that refuse our culture.

But aren't you of Irish decent? I know that the Irish in Montreal have blended easily into the French-Canadian world (mainly b/c both of the groups are Catholic), but you are still Irish...right?

As for speaking the language, start with the ignorant francophones who do not speak English. There is no excuse for not being bilingual when you are born in Quebec.
 
2Thick im confused? You french? or not?

I wont go to the question of language, it makes no sense.

The Irishs were the first to arrived in Quebec, yes they arrived at the same time of the French. Why?
The Wild Geese regiment, all formed of Irish volunteers, they were given lands here after their military services.
ex of those ppl: Binette = Bennet, Sullivan = Sylvain, Burke = Bourque. etc...

As for the Irish, in Qc, they are 60% catholics, 40% protestant, and half of the 40% were adopted by catholic families down in Lac Saint Jean, when they arrived here around 1814-1842, they arrived in a British land, where they meet fellow catholic who are also celtics but better who also HATE the brits.. With who will you allied and get married? The mighty Brit or the cute french girl who is also a horn dog ;).

As I know, Quebec's only official language is french and that fine for me.
It was abused too often in the past, funniest thing it was not even abused much by the real english speakers (Brits, Irish, Scot) but by new immigrant refusing to speak it.
 
3Vandoo said:
The mighty Brit or the cute french girl who is also a horn dog ;).

As I know, Quebec's only official language is french and that fine for me.
It was abused too often in the past, funniest thing it was not even abused much by the real english speakers (Brits, Irish, Scot) but by new immigrant refusing to speak it.

I'll take the horn dog!!!

As for the official French language, that is fine by me too. But that does not change the fact that Canada has two official languages and as far as I know, Quebec is part of Canada.
 
mdd said:

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools.

I can't believe how many (almost all) people believe this. Thomas Jefferson and most of the intellectuals that founded this country were Diests, NOT CHRISTIANS. they believed in god, but sure as hell not in the bible.
 
It's good some spanish speaking people try to learn english...but I know people who have been here 30 years and still cannot hold a decent coversation. Mpost of this is because we put almost EVERYTHING in spanish for them. We bend over backwards to make it easy for them to live here. Polish people come here and they have to learn english. You dont see signs in Polish everywhere.
 
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