IM Thinking about taking gear?

[irish_pride]

Ive been bodybuilding for about 3 years. Im noticing gains as it is, but i want to be huge and it will take another 6 years to get like that the way things are progressing now.
Im new to steroids and my knowledge of them is absolete.
i know (i think anyway) ;

-they should be injected in the ass instead of taken orally because of problems on the liver.
- they carry side effects.
- can be very dangerous.
- are illegal.

I live in the UK. So i have no idea of how to get them. at teh gym there are pro bodybuilders, world champions and im sure theyve taken them before, perhaps i could approach them.
what advice do people here have for me. what steroid would a newbie like me be best suited to?
How do i know im not geting a fake. And how can i make minimise the risks of side effects.?
i dont want to get taller or get bigger ears or nose or jaw, i just want muscle gain. I dont compete and Im not worried about tests.

whatever help you can offer i would greatly appreciate.

 

[chefbone]

Hey. First off, I would not approach anyone and ask them if they can get gear. If it comes up in conversation, cool for you then. Secondly, what are your stats? How is your diet? What is your training like?

 

[irish_pride]

90kg, 6,1. 21yrs old.
train 3 times per week. no cardio. diet is good eat 150g protein a day.

 

[chefbone]

I would double your protein for sure. Bump it up 50 grams per week until you hit 300 grams. Also, train 1-2 more days a week. Make sure your diet is clean i.e. 5-6 meals a day, veggies, fruits, complex carbs, supplements. If you do this for 6 months and keep making gains, then you shouldn't use any gear yet. Go natural until you hit a wall then gear is an option.

 

[buffalo]

Hang out and read. Before long you'll have alot of good knowledge about what to do.

 

[irish_pride]

Ive been going natural for 3 years. i used to be on 250g of protein a day but i dont notice anymore gains than eating 150.
i could train an extra day but i thought it was best to give my muscles 72hrs rest in between workouts.


Obviously i dont need gear, but i would like to try it out.

 

[chefbone]

Dude, I would edit that website right away before you get flamed, bombed or banned. You should have the holy trinity in full check before pursuing alternative methods i.e. gear. Good luck dude!!!

p.s. Holy Trinity= diet, training and rest.

 

[krishna]

Dude, I would edit that website right away before you get flamed, bombed or banned. You should have the holy trinity in full check before pursuing alternative methods i.e. gear. Good luck dude!!!

p.s. Holy Trinity= diet, training and rest.

Listen to the chef!

 

[sandman_007]

correct me if i am wrong, but i think steroids are legal for PERSONAL USE ONLY in the UK

 

[Redshoteye]

Ive been bodybuilding for about 3 years. Im noticing gains as it is, but i want to be huge and it will take another 6 years to get like that the way things are progressing now.
Im new to steroids and my knowledge of them is absolete.
i know (i think anyway) ;

-they should be injected in the ass instead of taken orally because of problems on the liver.
- they carry side effects.
- can be very dangerous.
- are illegal.

I live in the UK. So i have no idea of how to get them. at teh gym there are pro bodybuilders, world champions and im sure theyve taken them before, perhaps i could approach them.
what advice do people here have for me. what steroid would a newbie like me be best suited to?
How do i know im not geting a fake. And how can i make minimise the risks of side effects.?
i dont want to get taller or get bigger ears or nose or jaw, i just want muscle gain. I dont compete and Im not worried about tests.

whatever help you can offer i would greatly appreciate.

You've been on this board long enough to know this isn't a good post at all... It's obvious you need to do much more reseach, surf around these boards to read and learn. Do you even know what PCT is? AAS are only useful with proper training, diet, and rest.. Perfect these, grow up, and then consider gear. Take this into consideration before you board a sinking ship.

 

[irish_pride]

If you cant offer any advice except read through the board, then dont reply to my question, catalyst.I dont understand what your talking about "sinking ship"? Grow up? whats that supposed to mean?

if noone even wants to attempt to give me decent advice then dont post on my thread. its a simple enough post.
ive done some reading but its still confusing.
most of the people here are experienced users i thought they would be able to share their expertise.

 

[buffer1]

Just Do It

 

[irish_pride]

dont know where to start buffer!

 

[buffer1]

well you said you have been working out for about three years now,and you have noticed some gains,well what kind of gains are you looking for?

 

[chefbone]

I am not speaking for cata1yst, but I'm sure he ment no disrespect. I think I offered enough advice to get you started. If your dead set on using gear now, you will not get your moneys worth if the holy trinity is not in check. A simple first cycle would be test e 500mg a week. I would split this into 2 injections. 10-12 weeks then start pct 5 days after your last injection. Also, have nolva on hand if gyno flares up. You may even want some a-dex to keep water retention at a minimum. Hope this sheds some light on your dilemma.

 

[buffer1]

if you never have taken any kind of enhancement before you might want to start off with some M1T or some 1-AD and see how you like it some guys like it alot,I tried it last year and did,nt like it at all,so therefore,I,m starting a cycle of injectibles

 

[ed2005]

Ive been bodybuilding for about 3 years. Im noticing gains as it is, but i want to be huge and it will take another 6 years to get like that the way things are progressing now.
Im new to steroids and my knowledge of them is absolete.
i know (i think anyway) ;

-they should be injected in the ass instead of taken orally because of problems on the liver.
- they carry side effects.
- can be very dangerous.
- are illegal.

I live in the UK. So i have no idea of how to get them. at teh gym there are pro bodybuilders, world champions and im sure theyve taken them before, perhaps i could approach them.
what advice do people here have for me. what steroid would a newbie like me be best suited to?
How do i know im not geting a fake. And how can i make minimise the risks of side effects.?
i dont want to get taller or get bigger ears or nose or jaw, i just want muscle gain. I dont compete and Im not worried about tests.

whatever help you can offer i would greatly appreciate.

Well me owl matey. Don't go gettin annoyed with some of the responses as most really do have our best interests at heart. There are risks involved with AAS usage and some potentially fatal if in uneducated hands. I know how frustrating it can be when you want to do something and everyone says don't but rather than ask what, perhaps do a little research by looking up other posts like 'my first cycle posts' etc and learn the risks, pitfalls and ofcourse what to expect. There are no magical formulas for use of AAS and the fear for everyone is that if you don't show a basic understanding bro's get worried that you may get messed up. There is also the fact that you will probably fall victim to scammers who read your post and try and sell you anything, regardless of your health and the likelyhood is the gear will never arrive.
Try and do a bit of research and perhaps then suggest a plan for yourself and the help will be easier to obtain. I'm sorry that this isn't what you want to hear. I want to help but feel helpless until you research. Feel free to PM me at anytime with questions and I might even drive down there and buy you a guinness
Cheers I.P.
Ed

 

[wayneboard1]

Ive been bodybuilding for about 3 years. Im noticing gains as it is, but i want to be huge and it will take another 6 years to get like that the way things are progressing now.
Im new to steroids and my knowledge of them is absolete.
i know (i think anyway) ;

-they should be injected in the ass instead of taken orally because of problems on the liver.
- they carry side effects.
- can be very dangerous.
- are illegal.

I live in the UK. So i have no idea of how to get them. at teh gym there are pro bodybuilders, world champions and im sure theyve taken them before, perhaps i could approach them.
what advice do people here have for me. what steroid would a newbie like me be best suited to?
How do i know im not geting a fake. And how can i make minimise the risks of side effects.?
i dont want to get taller or get bigger ears or nose or jaw, i just want muscle gain. I dont compete and Im not worried about tests.

whatever help you can offer i would greatly appreciate.

I am ashamed to be Irish. LOL Just kidding bro.

Man, I'm not a vet here by any means, but you need to realize that when you ask for direction, don't get mad if you don't like the direction given. These guys are gonna be honest, brutally honest at times. I am 11 years older than you and am just NOW getting ready to do my first cycle.

I read read, and am still reading and learning. You ARE to young to even be considering gear of any kind, end of story. It's not an insult just a fact of life and I would bet you would do more damage than good in the long run. Before jumping into gear look into fine tuning your workout and might I suggest looking at the 5X5 program(look up madcow 5X5 in the search option). I was about to do my first cycle a few months ago until I came across this. I put that on hold to A) learn more about gear and all that surrounds it and B) to run the 5X5 program since it can really shock your body and add on average 20-30 lbs of muscle, especially with someone young like you with high natural test levels. I have been on that program for 7.5 weeks now and LOVE it and am gaining muscle. I am going to wait on my cycle to solidify that workout and more myself before running a cycle later in the summer.

You came here looking for advice and while you may not like the advice given, the guys on here know what they are talking about most of the time, and if you dont know for sure then ask a vet or mod. If the majority of them tell you to go to the PCT forum and read, DO IT. If the majority of them tell you to wait on a cycle until you are older, DO IT. If you are just looking for someone to tell you what you want to hear, go to Ballys. I'm not trying to be a jerk, just calling it like I see it.

 

[ed2005]

correct me if i am wrong, but i think steroids are legal for PERSONAL USE ONLY in the UK

You are correct sir.... We used to buy them in Europe in Pharmacies and just bring them back home. You could buy shed loads as long as you could say I only go on hols once a year and this is my supply for the next year..

 

[azul]

You are correct sir.... We used to buy them in Europe in Pharmacies and just bring them back home. You could buy shed loads as long as you could say I only go on hols once a year and this is my supply for the next year..

Lucky fuckers!

I wish I could come back to Canada and declare my 10 vials of test on the customs form.

 

[buffer1]

Lucky fuckers!

I wish I could come back to Canada and declare my 10 vials of test on the customs form.

yeah that would be nice

 

[ed2005]

Lucky fuckers!

I wish I could come back to Canada and declare my 10 vials of test on the customs form.

LMAO at Azul..
Haven't done it in years though. The beauty was that you bought them in Pharmacies so they were all pharmacutical grade deca, winnstrol, sus, etc and you knew they were 100%. Also Ephedrine was freely available but I know they took that off over the counter sales some years back when the dance scene was at it's height, people using amphetimines and E's etc.

 

[fireflyer]

Get a few pails of whey protein powder, three bottles of testosterone Propionate dosed at 100mg/ml, 10,000iu of HCG and at least 20-40 tabs of Nolvadex at 20 mg each. Then, set an appointment with a personal trainer that's huge (he's not all natural). Read the info on the board for injections sites and techniques. You're gonna be doing a lot of them so quads or glutes. Tell the trainer what you are doing and when. He'll set up a more agressive workout for you based on the chemicle assistance. Do a single cc injection every other day. If your nipples start to hurt - take 40mg of the Nolvadex per day for a week or until it stops. If you notice your nuts have shrunk to raisins after a few weeks then take 1000iu of the HCG for five days to fluff them back up. You're used to your current diet so if it's healthy and clean just add 3-6 scoops of the protein powder to it. Don't drink alcohol while you're on and do cardio at least once a week (away from leg day). Drink at least 2-3 liters of water a day for hydration and it helps with the bloat. After the AAS is done start PCT with the HCG and Nolvadex.

Well that's a fairly safe start. The thing is bro - once you do there's no looking back. Not to many guys leave it alone again until they run out of money, get laisy or have a bad side effect from it. This will dose you at 350mg of test a wk. My first cycle I had great gains off of 250mg a wk but I lost it all because I knew nothing about PCT. There's so much to learn about this stuff bro and I know so very little. There's guys on here that have been experts for years and still shit goes wrong for them once in a while. So, I don't think anyone meant to talk down to you about it. They're just concerned you might not appreciate the seriousness and complexity of using AAS.
That said you'll probably do it anyway so try to know as much as you can about it first. You'll be glad you did when you read some poor newbs post saying "Why are my tits growing?" or "Where did my nuts go?"
Please don't take the above as complete. I just wanted to cover the basics of your question.

 

[Redshoteye]

If you cant offer any advice except read through the board, then dont reply to my question, catalyst.I dont understand what your talking about "sinking ship"? Grow up? whats that supposed to mean?

if noone even wants to attempt to give me decent advice then dont post on my thread. its a simple enough post.
ive done some reading but its still confusing.
most of the people here are experienced users i thought they would be able to share their expertise.

If you wanted a sugar coated reply you should've mentioned that in your post. I guess the truth hurts. You asked elementary questions and expect us to do your homework and THAT is why you recieved these type of responses. Once you've done that ask a legitimate question and we'll be glad to help. Since you expect to receive "advice" without posting any of your stats or goals, and simply saying "I dont want to wait 6 years I want to get huge now, but all I know is its illegal, is bad for you, and you inject in your ass" tells me you aren't ready.

I'm 21 myself and have the patience to wait, so theres no excuse. But apparently you completely missed out on my advice, because I did offer it to you... read the boards and surf the internet, eat like a horse and train like a bull, because your test levels are overflowing right now theres no need for juice. The answers are at your fingertips.

 

[irish_pride]

Thanks everyone. really appreciate it.

 

[mish12345]

hi im 18 and am starting my 1st course of dbol very soon. i have 8weeks supply but do you think this is too long? should i keep below 20mg/day throughout the whole course? i have also been told to take clomid twice a week during my cycle. are the chances of acne lower seeing as my dosages wont be too high?
thanks