im opening myself up for the Bros.........

[CASS]

now, im a experienced user, ive been working out for 13 years. ive completed 5 cycles over 7 years.

now ive had a 4 year break and want to get back into the zone.... i've been working out naturally as required and am back ready for a cycle.

i wish to gain size and strenght, with as few as side effect as possible.

now im 6"0 ans currently 15 stone having shed alot of the fat i had gained during my off years.

now i know what im thinking of and what i want to do but i dont want to influence your choices.

now bros any suggestions?

thanks in advance

 

[satchboogie]

youre not in england mate!!
how much is 15 stone?

 

[growthspurt]

now, im a experienced user, ive been working out for 13 years. ive completed 5 cycles over 7 years.

now ive had a 4 year break and want to get back into the zone.... i've been working out naturally as required and am back ready for a cycle.

i wish to gain size and strenght, with as few as side effect as possible.

now im 6"0 ans currently 15 stone having shed alot of the fat i had gained during my off years.

now i know what im thinking of and what i want to do but i dont want to influence your choices.

now bros any suggestions?

thanks in advance

how about Just Test and maybe some var to get your feet wet again?

 

[growthspurt]

youre not in england mate!!
how much is 15 stone?

Or at least we're not! yeah WTF is 15 stone anyway????

 

[growthspurt]

Wait.......... isn't that a Bush album?

 

[DieselGunz]

test/eq

primo

var/tbol

 

[gymratforlife]

Or at least we're not! yeah WTF is 15 stone anyway????

I think its like 15 rocks piled on top of eachother

 

[growthspurt]

Wait.......... isn't that a Bush album?

No, No, that's 16 Stone by Bush...my bad!
Gotta be something along the same line though!

 

[Neo22]

1 stone = 14lbs bros

So, the guy above is around 210lbs give or take a few.

 

[growthspurt]

1 stone = 14lbs bros

So, the guy above is around 210lbs give or take a few.

Of course!! Silly me! So now I'm wondering why Bush would name their record 224lbs??

 

[CASS]

Or at least we're not! yeah WTF is 15 stone anyway????

15 stone is 210 pounds

 

[CASS]

thanks for the ideas so far, any others bros

now i know from experience that bros on this board are the bomb at cycles and suggetions so dont be shy fire away

 

[growthspurt]

thanks for the ideas so far, any others bros

now i know from experience that bros on this board are the bomb at cycles and suggetions so dont be shy fire away

Well why don't you start off by telling us what drugs you typically handled well in the past? just because one guy doesn't get sides from a certain roid, doesn't mean the next one won't! For instance, read my recent thread on EQ. Now that drug is hailed by 99.9% of the bros who use it, but it gives me some sexual sides! Until you provide us with a little more info, everything we come up with will just be a shot in the dark.

 

[gymratforlife]

Test 500mg/week,deca 400mg/week

 

[solidspine]

15 stones okay

How old are you?

 

[CASS]

Well why don't you start off by telling us what drugs you typically handled well in the past? just because one guy doesn't get sides from a certain roid, doesn't mean the next one won't! For instance, read my recent thread on EQ. Now that drug is hailed by 99.9% of the bros who use it, but it gives me some sexual sides! Until you provide us with a little more info, everything we come up with will just be a shot in the dark.

good point bro , my mistake.

i've used sust, test eth, cyp, primo, winny and dbol at various times and in various combos and handled well in all cases, just some bad acne with the test but i can handle that, it bit of a issue when it hit my face but taken care of with over the counter products. never used EQ, wasnt that big when i was using most.

 

[CASS]

15 stones okay

How old are you?

im almost 30

 

[growthspurt]

good point bro , my mistake.

i've used sust, test eth, cyp, primo, winny and dbol at various times and in various combos and handled well in all cases, just some bad acne with the test but i can handle that, it bit of a issue when it hit my face but taken care of with over the counter products. never used EQ, wasnt that big when i was using most.

Well, since you're looking for size and strength, Test enth and Dbol are king. But since you're prone to acne(so am I), try Test enth and use Anavar instead of Dbol. And if you can get your hands on some good Primo, throw that in there. Notice I'm not giving you a dosing scheme. You be the judge of that!
I would try to use the least amount of Test that will give you results and go with higher Primo/Var dosing. If Primo is a no-go, use Winny. I'll bet you money that Dbol was the main culprit of you acne along with a high Test dose! What did you use for PCT in the past?

 

[CASS]

Well, since you're looking for size and strength, Test enth and Dbol are king. But since you're prone to acne(so am I), try Test enth and use Anavar instead of Dbol. And if you can get your hands on some good Primo, throw that in there. Notice I'm not giving you a dosing scheme. You be the judge of that!
I would try to use the least amount of Test that will give you results and go with higher Primo/Var dosing. If Primo is a no-go, use Winny. I'll bet you money that Dbol was the main culprit of you acne along with a high Test dose! What did you use for PCT in the past?

agreed,

PCT was clomid and continued use of proviron (limited to allow gains), with Hcg thrown in also

last cycle was 750mg p/week sust with 500 mg p/week primo to solidify gains with 80 mg Dbol per day split between two doses. over 10 weeks

 

[Wrongun]

I would look at Dbol, SUS and Decca stack. Excellent mass cycle and ensure you have Nolva on hand and clomid for PCT

e.g.

Dbol 35-40mg ED Weeks 1-4
SUS@500mg EW Weeks 1-8/10
Decca @ 400mg Weeks 1-9/10

Clomid PCT

Wrongun!

 

[growthspurt]

agreed,

PCT was clomid and continued use of proviron (limited to allow gains), with Hcg thrown in also

last cycle was 750mg p/week sust with 500 mg p/week primo to solidify gains with 80 mg Dbol per day split between two doses. over 10 weeks

I would say that 80mgs of Dbol with the Sust brought on the zits. I like Wronguns' idea with the Deca. Did the 500mgs of Primo actually help keep the gains on your last cycle? If so, I'd keep it in the mix and up the dose if you can afford it.

 

[rpol]

I would look at Dbol, SUS and Decca stack. Excellent mass cycle and ensure you have Nolva on hand and clomid for PCT

e.g.

Dbol 35-40mg ED Weeks 1-4
SUS@500mg EW Weeks 1-8/10
Decca @ 400mg Weeks 1-9/10

Clomid PCT

Wrongun!

That is a Good suggestested start make sure to spread the D-bol over about 3-4 doses though Bro instead of 2 and you'll get better results wouldn't even need any anti e's except for Pct I prefer Nolva over clomid but to each his own.

 

[growthspurt]

That is a Good suggestested start make sure to spread the D-bol over about 3-4 doses though Bro instead of 2 and you'll get better results wouldn't even need any anti e's except for Pct I prefer Nolva over clomid but to each his own.

How do you know he would'nt need any anti e's during his cycle?? I know bro's that start to flare up on 10-20mgs of dbol/day no matter how many doses they break it up into. I'm not flaming you, just stating a fact. Look, this Bro wants to keep the sides down to a min. So I think it would be a good idea to keep some nolva/Armidex on hand just in case, esp when running serious andros like Test and Dbol!(This is why I reccomended Primo). Also keep in mind he has been off for quite a while so his receptors will be fresh and also ultra sensitive to tge Andros. Just my 2cents.

 

[CASS]

I would say that 80mgs of Dbol with the Sust brought on the zits. I like Wronguns' idea with the Deca. Did the 500mgs of Primo actually help keep the gains on your last cycle? If so, I'd keep it in the mix and up the dose if you can afford it.

yes kept alot of the gains. i may well just up the dose, although i like wronguns idea. funny thing is i just recommended that same stack to someone else, before reading his post!