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i dont have health insurance so i cant see a doc for my gyno im getting. i cant get a hold of the guy who got me my test so basically i have NO way of getting an anti-e. guys what do i do?? im desperate! what if i just cut my test dose in half from 300mg/wk to 150 mg/wk? i know it would almost be pointless to do that but i dont wanna just totally quit my cycle...please someone help!
 
never mind Ill tell you here

you can get 2 supps that are topical

I would do a liberal dose cycle of Deramcrine and Mr.Supps topical formastane

use double doses of both for 2 weeks till your new Test dose of 200-300 catches ups to you.

Once the gyno goes away you can drop both supps

Look out for sore joints and moods as you Silence the E and prog.
 
get some nolvadex.

otc a.i. atd, 6-oxo, 6-bromo, formestane.

I prefer 6-bromo. but if you want to destroy estrogen, get some atd. inhibit e is a solid product. alot of people like formestane.

one should never think of starting a cycle of aromatizable steroids without nolvadex. good luck bro.

and also, invest in a copy of one or both of the books in my signature, this way, you NEVER have to worry about this shit happening again.
 
never mind Ill tell you here

you can get 2 supps that are topical

I would do a liberal dose cycle of Deramcrine and Mr.Supps topical formastane

use double doses of both for 2 weeks till your new Test dose of 200-300 catches ups to you.

Once the gyno goes away you can drop both supps

Look out for sore joints and moods as you Silence the E and prog.

this will definately work?? im just a little broke right now. i ordered the dermacrine already but not sure if i can afford the other for a few days. what if i do a 4x dose of dermacrine? if not ill just find a way to get money for the mr supps, i just dont want to spend money if it doesnt work, not that i dont trust you since you seem to be one of the guys on here who knows his shit. thanks
 
get some nolvadex.

otc a.i. atd, 6-oxo, 6-bromo, formestane.

I prefer 6-bromo. but if you want to destroy estrogen, get some atd. inhibit e is a solid product. alot of people like formestane.

one should never think of starting a cycle of aromatizable steroids without nolvadex. good luck bro.

and also, invest in a copy of one or both of the books in my signature, this way, you NEVER have to worry about this shit happening again.

i know bro. thanks for posting. in ten cycles ive never once started without an anti e. my buddy always has something so i thought id be failsafe here, but i was wrong. i cant get nolvadex so im hoping these topical dermacrine and mr supps will help. i have novedex xt somewhere too but not sure if that will actually do anything.
 
yes you need an AI pronto!

the topical will work

are you on cycle? if so def cut the test to 200-300 for the next weeks till your endocrine system settles down
 
bro if you cannot afford to buy an anti-estrogen and have it on hand you shouldn't be doing steroids in the first place unless you want to go through life with bitch tits and get made fun of by your friends and family.

anyway yes formestane is what I am taking for my bloat I am getting.. good luck and next time have EVERYTHING on hand just in case.. don't go to a lawyers office without your check book on hand and don't do steroids without AI's on hand.
 
get some nolvadex.

otc a.i. atd, 6-oxo, 6-bromo, formestane.

I prefer 6-bromo. but if you want to destroy estrogen, get some atd. inhibit e is a solid product. alot of people like formestane.

one should never think of starting a cycle of aromatizable steroids without nolvadex. good luck bro.

and also, invest in a copy of one or both of the books in my signature, this way, you NEVER have to worry about this shit happening again.

nolvadex isn't a huge fan on this site.. many say its an ancient anti-estrogen to use. and many say you definately dont want to take it after a deca cycle. for the record I took it after my last cycle and it did not work very well helping me with a soft landing but did help my bloat.
 
Well, nolva binds to the estrogen receptor in breast tissue preventing estrogen from doing it's dirty work. and as well, also lowers your lipids.

I'm not a big fan of aromatase inhibitors, but I dont run 19nor compounds that often, nor do I use aromatizable steroids that much.

Nolva for gyno, aromatase inhibitors for no estrogen at all.

oh well, just a matter of opinion.

good luck to the op.
 
Nolvadex is what you need for gyno. You need to starve that breast tissue of estrogen and that's the effect nolva has. It takes time though. Use 20mgs ED and you should should start to feel the lump start to shrink after about a month. Its not and anti-e, its an estrogen antagonist which means it prevents estrogen from exerting its effects on tissue. Its readily available if you live in the US.
 
Nolvadex is what you need for gyno. You need to starve that breast tissue of estrogen and that's the effect nolva has. It takes time though. Use 20mgs ED and you should should start to feel the lump start to shrink after about a month. Its not and anti-e, its an estrogen antagonist which means it prevents estrogen from exerting its effects on tissue. Its readily available if you live in the US.

i know man thats the whole point of this post. Ive taken nolva for all twelve cycles in the past and its worked perfect. right now i CANNOT get nolvadex, so im asking about maybe formastane.
 
i know man thats the whole point of this post. Ive taken nolva for all twelve cycles in the past and its worked perfect. right now i CANNOT get nolvadex, so im asking about maybe formastane.

OK I see. I don't have experience with formastane so I can't help you there. Looks like some of the other guys have some good suggestions with OTC's so hopefully that'll work for you. Good luck bro.
 
thanks anyway rocdoc. i was wondering if any of u guys can tell me why formestane is so effective if it is legal?/??
 
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