Im finished with getting big

[PoyeBoy]

shit doesnt even pay, yeah I look big, but so what, my shoulders fucked from my first cycle, my legs are too big to run or fit into jeans, since I havent been able to lift in 2 months the cycle did more damage than good, so I am at 215 and a little pudgy right now, but I am shooting for 180 and skinny, I want my waist to be a 28 again, its like a 33 right now, Im just gonna run like 5 miles a day, fuck lifting for a while, with all the muscle Ive gained, even when I get down to 180 I will still be pretty big compared to most people

Im a do clen; 125mcgs for 6 weeks, bike in the am on empty stomach, run in the PM, maybe lift 3 times a week possibly the reg park program, then after 10(6 weeks clen, 4 weeks eca) weeks im going to run 600 mgs of EQ for 12 weeks and 125mcgs clen 6 weeks on 2 weeks off, the whole while doing ckd

this isnt a new years resolution or anything, those things are ghey, if you need new years to set yourself to do something your pretty weak, its just something Ive decided to do for myself and that I dont want to be big anymore

Ima be ripped like brad pitt

Ill take pics as well

 

[gonelifting]

This is a serious violation of ESOB rules and shall be dealt with accordingly. Our next meeting will have this matter on it`s agenda.

 

[The_Ghost]

Lift or leave!!!!

Dont let the Vikings loss get ya down!!!

 

[jerkbox]

hmmmm

 

[WODIN]

215 aint big. It isn't even in the ball park of BIG.

 

[tuc biscuit]

play rugby

 

[The Shadow]

215 aint big. It isn't even in the ball park of BIG.

thanks you fucker

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I don't know, flex wheeler used to compete at 215'ish in the mid-90's and he looked pretty massive to me.

 

[PoyeBoy]

lol, losers im still going to lift, but just not until I know my shoulders 100% healed on its own,

plus whats the point/advantage of lifting and being 16% or higher? if you have muscles but fat hiding the muscles you create? I mean everyone has thier own prerogative, if thats yours thats fine, but id rather have a lower bf%

 

[jerkbox]

go on a diet you fatbody

 

[Deleted member 33117]

PB, I would agree that its a waste to put in the effort in the gym and being 16%. Spend all spring cutting. I'm going to be slowly working on lbm gains, and a slow loss in bf for at least the next 6 months. I've decided that its a waste to put all of this effort into by body and ever go above 10%. I would rather stay lean year round.

 

[PoyeBoy]

PB, I would agree that its a waste to put in the effort in the gym and being 16%. Spend all spring cutting. I'm going to be slowly working on lbm gains, and a slow loss in bf for at least the next 6 months. I've decided that its a waste to put all of this effort into by body and ever go above 10%. I would rather stay lean year round.

Exactly krama to you fine sir

and jerkbox ---- F OFF, I HAT YOU

 

[Deleted member 33117]

PB, when did you get that 11th dot? I've gotten over 400 pts since I gained my 10th one, but its been there forever. What's the deal?

 

[PoyeBoy]

PB, when did you get that 11th dot? I've gotten over 400 pts since I gained my 10th one, but its been there forever. What's the deal?

hmm, dont remember, I have 2061 karma points

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Yeah, I think once you break 1000, it takes forever to get more green dots. I'm sitting at 1430 right now.

 

[WODIN]

thanks you fucker

Sorry...

 

[The_Ghost]

Yeah, I think once you break 1000, it takes forever to get more green dots. I'm sitting at 1430 right now.

I think I got number 11 at 1500.

 

[from zero]

thanks you fucker

LOL!!

 

[milo hobgoblin]

LOL

Its big if you're like 5'5"

 

[hardrock]

Would you still wanna get big if you never had the shoulder problems?

 

[canadianhitman]

I feel like I've been stuck at 7 dots forever.

 

[The Red Dragon]

Basically after a certain point, it takes 200 k points to move up a dot. I think it was 700? After 700 next dot is at 900/1100/1300/1500 (max) After that I think your titles just change.

I'm spending effort in the gym and I'm about 18% ...I thought you needed lean mass to cut.

 

[pitbullstl]

215 aint big. It isn't even in the ball park of BIG.

It's big........but it ain't huge.....


Poye.....I feel your pain......I deal with this dilemma on a daily basis.......and I too will be going the same route as you..... minus the running bullshit....( no ones chasing me).....

I look at it like this.....I've been 320 at 15-16% and felt like shit.....I've been 265 at 5%......and a few years ago, when I tore my acl.....I was 230 at 8%.....I felt the best (besides the knee) at that weight.

Ideally I would like to drop lbm all the way down to 215 or so....and hover around there for the rest of my adult life.....realistically, that is still pretty fucking big if I can maintain bodyfat at 8-9%.....and that would be fine with me......

Right now I can't run with Riley (my daughter)..and I have another one on the way.....

I'm off right now...and I plan on staying off.....I'll never be a pro bodybuilder (waist has always been too blocky, and symmetry is way off) so what the hell is the point....I don't want to be that old guy who is living in the past....so before I hit 30 I want to be on my way down

Good luck with your goals.........Pit

 

[WODIN]

Big is 250 - 300.

Huge is 301 - 350

Massive freak is 351 +

 

[pitbullstl]

Big is 250 - 300.

Huge is 301 - 350

Massive freak is 351 +

It's all relative......at 265 at 5%....I don't hink there are too many people that don't think I am huge......(pro bodybuilders included)

I am 5'11"........300 plus pounds does not look good....period....Ronnie doesn't even pull it off.........

 

[PIGEON-RAT]

Big is 250 - 300.

Huge is 301 - 350

Massive freak is 351 +

and we're talkin kilos right?

 

[WODIN]

and we're talkin kilos right?

I use pounds. I'm an AMERICAN!!!

WTF MAN! Kilo.s shiiiiiiieet.

 

[jerkbox]

well, i'm almost big

 

[PoyeBoy]

It's big........but it ain't huge.....


Poye.....I feel your pain......I deal with this dilemma on a daily basis.......and I too will be going the same route as you..... minus the running bullshit....( no ones chasing me).....

I look at it like this.....I've been 320 at 15-16% and felt like shit.....I've been 265 at 5%......and a few years ago, when I tore my acl.....I was 230 at 8%.....I felt the best (besides the knee) at that weight.

Ideally I would like to drop lbm all the way down to 215 or so....and hover around there for the rest of my adult life.....realistically, that is still pretty fucking big if I can maintain bodyfat at 8-9%.....and that would be fine with me......

Right now I can't run with Riley (my daughter)..and I have another one on the way.....

I'm off right now...and I plan on staying off.....I'll never be a pro bodybuilder (waist has always been too blocky, and symmetry is way off) so what the hell is the point....I don't want to be that old guy who is living in the past....so before I hit 30 I want to be on my way down

Good luck with your goals.........Pit

same with you man, good luck

and hardrock, I dont think I would want to be over 215, I saw pics of when I was in myrtle beach and I look silly big @ 228

plus Ive always been a runner, and I never started lifting with the intention of being huge, it just some how turned out that I gain easily so I really never stopped

 

[havoc]

Gentlemen, your genetic make up and joint size also play a role, in fact at 235 around 7% or a tad lower, I am willing to bet I look bigger than most on here because of my bird joints, my waist is 28 inches, all the time I get "you weigh around 250 huh?" , no, 235 I say, just looks like that because of the density, shape, size, muscle maturity and genetic make up., does this make any sense?.

 

[WODIN]

Gentlemen, your genetic make up and joint size also play a role, in fact at 235 around 7% or a tad lower, I am willing to bet I look bigger than most on here because of my bird joints, my waist is 28 inches, all the time I get "you weigh around 250 huh?" , no, 235 I say, just looks like that because of the density, shape, size, muscle maturity and genetic make up., does this make any sense?.

I stopped smokin joints. Bongs rule!

 

[hardrock]

Gentlemen, your genetic make up and joint size also play a role, in fact at 235 around 7% or a tad lower, I am willing to bet I look bigger than most on here because of my bird joints, my waist is 28 inches, all the time I get "you weigh around 250 huh?" , no, 235 I say, just looks like that because of the density, shape, size, muscle maturity and genetic make up., does this make any sense?.

Yes I agree. Joint size makes a big difference in appearance.

 

[gonelifting]

I envy guys that can be low 200`s and look big. I need to be 260+ to even look decent. The most I weighed was 251 and I said to myself 270 should be better.

I`m 230`s now and growing again.

 

[PoyeBoy]

I envy guys that can be low 200`s and look big. I need to be 260+ to even look decent. The most I weighed was 251 and I said to myself 270 should be better.

I`m 230`s now and growing again.

but your like 6'4", Im only 5'7" maybe 5'8"

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I don't know, flex wheeler used to compete at 215'ish in the mid-90's and he looked pretty massive to me.>>>

I highly doubt he has Wheelers genetics. Very few people have the small joints and full muscle bellies that Wheeler has. He was able to look big at a fairly light weight. The only person who even comes close is Dexter. So unless he is one of those two guys, 215 is indeed small in the world of bodybuilding.

 

[theoak01]

play rugby

agreed

 

[Deleted member 33117]

C3, in the world of professional bodybuilding, but I gaurentee you if he is 5'8" 215 at 7 or 8% bf, over half of the people he meets will think he is the most massive person they have met.

 

[PoyeBoy]

C3, in the world of professional bodybuilding, but I gaurentee you if he is 5'8" 215 at 7 or 8% bf, over half of the people he meets will think he is the most massive person they have met.

lol, not to toot my own horn but a lot of people think im a monster, lol, they are always like "I want you by my side at the bar"

 

[Deleted member 33117]

PB, I know what you mean. I hear that sort of thing alot. Most poeple have never actually met a bodybuilder who is over 170 lbs in real life.

 

[pitbullstl]

lol, not to toot my own horn but a lot of people think im a monster, lol, they are always like "I want you by my side at the bar"

Toot Toot!!!

Seriously though.......what Havoc says is true.......joint size and bone mass make up a huge part of overall appearance.....

As far as the boneheads on here saying 215 isn't big in the "world of pro bodybuilding" ....... ........215 is big......I can almost be positive that the number of people on here at 215 and 5% under 5'10" is under 5..........215 is big....plain and simple........I don't know where all of these experts are coming from, but I competed for 9+ years......and I have seen people weigh in at 197 who look bigger than guys in my gym who top the scales at 230.........I won my first show at 201......and I't been downhill in my opinion since then......I have always been chasing the "mass".......we'll I'm done......nothing will ever replace that feeling of virgin receptor sites.....a non-gh belly.....and feeling shredded big..........

 

[PIGEON-RAT]

we should clarify, 5'10" 215 at >15% bf isn't that big. 215 at 8% bf would be much more impressive. most guys on this board who claim they weight above 215 are carrying a bit of fat. big, but not impressive.

i don't really pay much attention to weight anymore. it's all about the appearance, the illusion of size. when i was chasing the weight i just ended up adding unwanted fat. i'm pretty short so i would be pretty damn big if i hit 200lbs with low bf.

 

[beastboy]

I want to look like Kirk Cameron.


Oops....I already do.

My ass is dieting down......I jsut want to be lean...and be able to tell I wokout.....if that takes me to 180...so be it. I'm 197 as of today........if I ever cycle again, I am going about it so much differently.

And Poye...I hate your guts.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

As far as the boneheads on here saying 215 isn't big in the "world of pro bodybuilding" ....... ........215 is big......I can almost be positive that the number of people on here at 215 and 5% under 5'10" is under 5..........>>>>

Calm down. 215 with low bodyfat and 5'10 or under is BIG, even huge to most people in the world. But we're not talking 215 with low bodyfat. If I remember correctly, poye had fairly high b/f.

 

[PoyeBoy]

As far as the boneheads on here saying 215 isn't big in the "world of pro bodybuilding" ....... ........215 is big......I can almost be positive that the number of people on here at 215 and 5% under 5'10" is under 5..........>>>>

Calm down. 215 with low bodyfat and 5'10 or under is BIG, even huge to most people in the world. But we're not talking 215 with low bodyfat. If I remember correctly, poye had fairly high b/f.

not sure what bf%, not too high though, when I was 228 I could see 4 abs, now that Im 215 I can still see 4 abs, so its not like Im a hippo, Id have to guess 15% right now, when I was 228 prolly more like 13% or so, but I am 5'7" - 5'8"

 

[beastboy]

People on this site with sub 8% BF is not very high, IMO.

 

[PoyeBoy]

oh plus when I did my cycle, my face got round and I lost what neck I had left, its like my jawbone muscles doubled in size, like a bowling ball sitting on my shoulders

at least i didnt have hair loss problems

 

[pitbullstl]

When I click on the link to Chat and Conversation, I get re-directed to a pic of bodybyfinaplix......????


What the hell???