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barbells79
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hands down....................test enanthate
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Beezers said:
i dont agree. i like sustanon's gradual distribution of the hormone throughout the body and the need for less injections. although i really dont mind the shots it gets annoying when having to do them very frequently IMO. test suspension would suck, as well as propionate for this purpose as injections have to become more frequent. so yes, esters are relevant for this purpose. thats why they made them in the first place. not a flam bro just voicing my opinion. well, test is test and just like us, you're a test lover. thats all that matters.
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hmmm well if money was no object that i would probably go with either primobolan or the one you picked, masteron. primobolan because it does not convert into estrogen, is mild on the system, works even on a low calorie diet, and builds quality muscle overall.
same with masteron, although masteron is alot more androgenic (its a dht based drug) which may cause problems with the prostate in later years but it is good for overall hardening, good quality muscles, and good increases in strength. too bad i've never tried either but based on what i've heard and read this seems good for my goals. (im a mild user to begin with anway)
brainiac said:
hmmm well if money was no object that i would probably go with either primobolan or the one you picked, masteron. primobolan because it does not convert into estrogen, is mild on the system, works even on a low calorie diet, and builds quality muscle overall.
same with masteron, although masteron is alot more androgenic (its a dht based drug) which may cause problems with the prostate in later years but it is good for overall hardening, good quality muscles, and good increases in strength. too bad i've never tried either but based on what i've heard and read this seems good for my goals. (im a mild user to begin with anway)
defying gravity
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Simple!!!
Test, don't even need to think about it. People who say otherwise must not be concerned about being able to fuck when on a cycle. I for one find it totally unaceptable to not be able to fuck my girlfiend. I'm quite certian she feels the same. If you can't grow well on test....you probably just can't grow.
Defying Gravity
Test, don't even need to think about it. People who say otherwise must not be concerned about being able to fuck when on a cycle. I for one find it totally unaceptable to not be able to fuck my girlfiend. I'm quite certian she feels the same. If you can't grow well on test....you probably just can't grow.
Defying Gravity
Re: Simple!!!
im definatley concerned in that department but hmm guess u didnt know that test wasnt the only drug that increases sex drive. most drugs high in androgenic nature will do this. masteron for example will give you high sex drive because it is dht based and dht is the hormone responsible for sex drive. i chose primobolan as well because it is mild in shutting down the test production so im fine in that area. as well, even though it is mild in androgens it is a dht derivtive drug which in large doses will help will sex drive. there are many others. increasing sex drive and being able to get it up is not limited to test bro.
defying gravity said:
im definatley concerned in that department but hmm guess u didnt know that test wasnt the only drug that increases sex drive. most drugs high in androgenic nature will do this. masteron for example will give you high sex drive because it is dht based and dht is the hormone responsible for sex drive. i chose primobolan as well because it is mild in shutting down the test production so im fine in that area. as well, even though it is mild in androgens it is a dht derivtive drug which in large doses will help will sex drive. there are many others. increasing sex drive and being able to get it up is not limited to test bro.
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oxandrolone.
Why? Because it is relatively safe,good strength,cuts and can give good size too. Try using 200mg ox a day,expensive but I guarantee you will have the most insane results.
Oh yeah,the gains stay too.
Why? Because it is relatively safe,good strength,cuts and can give good size too. Try using 200mg ox a day,expensive but I guarantee you will have the most insane results.
Oh yeah,the gains stay too.
defying gravity
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Re: Re: Simple!!!
Mike, I'm very aware that there are other drugs that increase sex drive.....but try doing them long term BY THEMSELVES and tell me if:
A) Your sex drive is still there. Try doing 16 weeks of primo alone and tell me your all that!
B) Your gains are anywhere near what they would be with test.
Defying Gravity
Mike P.T. said:
Mike, I'm very aware that there are other drugs that increase sex drive.....but try doing them long term BY THEMSELVES and tell me if:
A) Your sex drive is still there. Try doing 16 weeks of primo alone and tell me your all that!
B) Your gains are anywhere near what they would be with test.
Defying Gravity
Re: Re: Re: Simple!!!
i agree with B) gains wont be as strong with the two i mentioned but thats ok because alot of the weight gains that come with test is from the water retension, something i dont want. the question was if you could pick one. shit if i could pick 2 chemical substances i would have stuck with my first choice, sus, and added arimidex to limit estrogen production and therefore have less bloat. but the choice was only one. also for A) yes long term you can take things like Masteron and still have a high sex drive. Proviron as well. Primobolan i agree no but masteron again is dht and dht is responsible for the male reproductive system which includes sex drive. anyway, overall im always into quality over quanitity. after my leaning out cycle coming up i dont think i'll be bulking up too much anymore. i just don't like the fluctuations in weight anymore.
defying gravity said:
i agree with B) gains wont be as strong with the two i mentioned but thats ok because alot of the weight gains that come with test is from the water retension, something i dont want. the question was if you could pick one. shit if i could pick 2 chemical substances i would have stuck with my first choice, sus, and added arimidex to limit estrogen production and therefore have less bloat. but the choice was only one. also for A) yes long term you can take things like Masteron and still have a high sex drive. Proviron as well. Primobolan i agree no but masteron again is dht and dht is responsible for the male reproductive system which includes sex drive. anyway, overall im always into quality over quanitity. after my leaning out cycle coming up i dont think i'll be bulking up too much anymore. i just don't like the fluctuations in weight anymore.
The Iron Game
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Testosterone it really is that simple. It works by both binding to the androgen receptor as well as non ar mediated means. This is like stacking but without stacking. The more the better if you can deal with the side effects. It is safe, it is natural unlike all these other steroids and it is King. Yes so simple.
HappyScrappy
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Well you said one substance, so that nixes test for me, since I need to use alot of anti-estros or I turn into a fat water-logged acne pocked irritable puffy nippled slug. The funny thing is that I am a naturally very lean person....this just happens when I run any amount of test (even just 300mg a week) without alot of armidex. I envy you guys that can use test without anti-estros and look good...I wish I was that way because it would save me a shitload of money...guess you just got alot less aromatase enzymes than me or something.
I'd have to go with anavar on this one, as I know I could use it without accessory drugs and also not have too much a problem coming off it without clomid (at the end of a cycle I'd just run a low dose AM only for a while).
and yes, masteron alone does hop up sex drive alot. Actually even tren, if you suppress prolactin with alot of Vitex, will really boost sex drive. I am on tren/winstrol/vitex now and am hornier than when I was on test suspension.
I really think this post is gonna be a split between the guys that can handle test without getting the sides, and guys like me who like non-aromatizing stuff, and also aren't looking to be 300lbs in the offseason.
I'd have to go with anavar on this one, as I know I could use it without accessory drugs and also not have too much a problem coming off it without clomid (at the end of a cycle I'd just run a low dose AM only for a while).
and yes, masteron alone does hop up sex drive alot. Actually even tren, if you suppress prolactin with alot of Vitex, will really boost sex drive. I am on tren/winstrol/vitex now and am hornier than when I was on test suspension.
I really think this post is gonna be a split between the guys that can handle test without getting the sides, and guys like me who like non-aromatizing stuff, and also aren't looking to be 300lbs in the offseason.
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Winstrol. Hey i love that shit.
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No fina.
I loved the results from fina in just 2 weeks but I didn't like the bad anxiety from it. I came off for 3 days and anxiety is already leaving me...... I decided to go back on but at a much lower dose. Anyways to answer the question.. any kind of test is great like the other guys said. Cypionate, omnas are my favs.
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