If test is test when broken down...

[lionheart69]

If test is test when broken down in the blood...why do people say cypionate is stronger than most other tests?

 

[Bulldog_10]

Who says that? Maybe they mean it is more concentrated than other tests because of the ester. The longer (and heavier) the ester, the less actual test is in each mL.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Its just old myth, probably stemming on the fact that cyp was most prominently an American drug and HAD to be stronger than the Enanthate Europeans were using.

- Bill Llewellyn

 

[lionheart69]

test is test?

If Cyp is broken down into plain old test, then does switching to another form of test lets say test Enanthate hit different receptors? If so how?

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

i dont agree, test all work different for me, like test suspension makes me much stronger then other tests at the same mg. Also it makes me strongest like when using anadrol-and d-bol, I also heard suspension is right with fina, but I haven't tried fina yet to tell.

 

[gotgear?]

test is test once its in the blood...the ester is what make them different as far as the time it take to get into the blood

 

[liftsiron]

Mikey test susp is stronger per cc because it has no ester i.e. you get more actual mgs of pure test per cc. I think one of the reasons that many bro's assumed that cyp is stronger than enath goes back to the days of steris cyp compared to broval and tornel enath. Steris actually had 200mg of test cyp per cc the mexican varities were always somewhat underdosed. (they are much more accurately dosed these days). Cyp also works a hair faster.

 

[serge]

"If test is test when broken down in the blood...why do people say cypionate is stronger than most other tests?"

for the same reason some will say suspension and prop will not cause water retension, and sustanon multi-ester blend induces synergy..............And the reason is-------------------->SHEER UNEDUCATED STUPIDITY

 

[nautica]

Mikey test susp is stronger per cc because it has no ester i.e. you get more actual mgs of pure test per cc. I think one of the reasons that many bro's assumed that cyp is stronger than enath goes back to the days of steris cyp compared to broval and tornel enath. Steris actually had 200mg of test cyp per cc the mexican varities were always somewhat underdosed. (they are much more accurately dosed these days). Cyp also works a hair faster.

Yep, I am with liftiron. To give an example, The following was posted by Zyg a couple of days ago.

"If I remember my numbers correctly the actual test in 100mg will be as follows.

Propionate 83mg
Enanthate 71mg
Cypionate 69mg
Decanoate 65mg

So as you can see, the ester makes up the rest of the weight on the 100mg. So if your running prop at 500mg/wk your actually getting 415mg of actual test once its unesterfied. On the other end we have decanoate and if you ran 500mg/wk of that, you would only be getting 325mg/wk of actual test"

Therefore, using the total mg's involved in the label cyp is actually weeker that Enthanate.

But, with suspension, there is no esther so with 100 mg you get 100 mg of test.

 

[needleboy]

Nautica is right mg for mg suspension has more test!

 

[lionheart69]

one more Question

Lets say your on omni's for 2months and then want to change to Enanthate to hit different receptors.....Does this actually work?
Isn't it all test anyways ???

 

[needleboy]

no matter what test you use, they all bind to the same ARs!

 

[The Man Child]

if you want to hit different receptors you'll need to stack test with something else.

 

[Zyglamail]

if you want to hit different receptors you'll need to stack test with something else.

The AR is the primary binding site for all AAS. The benefit of using different AAS is the different anciliary effects it has on the body, not that it binds to different receptors. SOme aas cause a much higher increase in IGF than others, some increase red blood cell count more etc etc.

 

[lionheart69]

Thanks

Thanks for all the help guys!
You guys are all so knowledgeable.