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I would have no problem with these parents being executed

they should stick those people, along with the DYFS officials, in a cage and let them starve to death.
 
I agree with that.

Can we get some race / economic data? They wer from CAmden so I am guessing blakc and poor.

Two questions:

1. Can the boys sue the state? if the state is going to stick its big fat nose intohomes, then when they fuck up, they should be liable.

2. When are governments going to stop giving money to people to adopt children? The worst abuses are almost always foster or adoptive care.
 
When I saw them talk about it on the news last night, they didn't show the family or the boys - but they showed the uncle.
The uncle said that everyone is mistaken and the boys just had eating disorders.
The uncle was black.
 
camden plus the last name "jackson" ...the only white Jackson i've ever known fought bravely in the kumite but lost a heart-breaking match to Chong Li, an asian guy with big pecs. fortunately frank dux avenged him in the final match and got his bandana back.

edited: Chong Li = Bloodsport, Chun Li = Streetfighter chick
 
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christ. the only eating disorder they had was that they weren't strong enough to break into the fridge. that uncle should be executed as well. execution by starvation and the only thing he has an option of eating is his own microwaved feces. when he's not eating he gets to be the recipient of tubgirl's fountain of funk
 
supersizeme said:
camden plus the last name "jackson" ...the only white Jackson i've ever known fought bravely in the kumite but lost a heart-breaking match to Chun Li, an asian guy with big pecs. fortunately frank dux avenged him in the final match and got his bandana back.

LOL
 
On the news they said that the girls in the house were well fed and healthy.
The boys were apparently gnawing on the wooden window frames and furniture in the house out of hunger.

I thought for sure the parents would be white trash - and maybe they are. I don't know much about neighborhoods or names.
 
i have worked in the child welfare field for the past 10 years. unfortunately, when cases like this arise, it is because of the negligence on the workers part. there are people working in this field who dont give a rats ass about their job hence why something like this goes unreported until you have a 19 yr old boy who weighs 45 lbs. its the workers who fuck up by not monitoring these children appropriately. they lie about seeing the kids month to month. this type of thing happens in every state And it is a disgrace.
 
From Zero said:


They be black, yo.

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Smurfy said:
i have worked in the child welfare field for the past 10 years. unfortunately, when cases like this arise, it is because of the negligence on the workers part. there are people working in this field who dont give a rats ass about their job hence why something like this goes unreported until you have a 19 yr old boy who weighs 45 lbs. its the workers who fuck up by not monitoring these children appropriately. they lie about seeing the kids month to month. this type of thing happens in every state And it is a disgrace.

Therefore, the boys should be able to sue the state.
 
supersizeme said:
camden plus the last name "jackson" ...the only white Jackson i've ever known fought bravely in the kumite but lost a heart-breaking match to Chun Li, an asian guy with big pecs. fortunately frank dux avenged him in the final match and got his bandana back.

Andrew Jackson?

This is sick... not even funny... Those kids lives are ruined... They are probably all boderline retarded from malnourishment and neglect too...
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


Therefore, the boys should be able to sue the state.

yes. i agree. and they should win. lawsuits have been filed in such cases in illinois. and settlements usually occur somewhere in the 6 digit range.
 
A msart lawyer should be able to win a lawsuit like that. 2 boys won last year here in Montréal. About the same shit. So if happened in a "socialist" country it can happen in the US easily.
 
Smurfy said:


yes. i agree. and they should win. lawsuits have been filed in such cases in illinois. and settlements usually occur somewhere in the 6 digit range.


Good. I am surprised the states allow this. Are you sure that the defendants were the states themselves?
 
One was 19... why didn't they go to the 7-11 and steal food or something... someone at school had to notice something.
 
i know of a case where an infant died while in a foster home. the infants family sued the priovate agency who was supposed to be monitoring the child and hsi siblings in foster care. the agency ended up settling for $1,000,000. technically, anyone can sue anyone. so the state department responsible for monitoring these kids can be sued as well. i can see the states public guardian (attorneys who represent the best interest of the children) suing the state department.
 
Smurfy said:
i know of a case where an infant died while in a foster home. the infants family sued the priovate agency who was supposed to be monitoring the child and hsi siblings in foster care. the agency ended up settling for $1,000,000. technically, anyone can sue anyone. so the state department responsible for monitoring these kids can be sued as well. i can see the states public guardian (attorneys who represent the best interest of the children) suing the state department.

I am a litigation manager for a company that handles hundreds of millions of dollars woth of tort cases annually.

"Anyone can sue anyone" is not entirely accurate - many states have passed statutes which preclude litigation against the state for certain things. The theory is that the state has a public interest which would be overridden by the individual's need if certain types of litigation were permitted to commence.

The agency above was private and probably has a state contract. That's another way states avoid litigation; the contract will typically have a clause that precludes the contractor from cross-complaining against the state if the contractor is sued.

I am so interested in this because legislative paralysis ensures that these kinds of problems are never dealt with. We've all heard dozens of stories about horrible child abuse. If states could suffer liability for these problems, things would get tightened up quickly.

I appreciate all of your feedback and welcome any additional comments.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:



Good. I am surprised the states allow this. Are you sure that the defendants were the states themselves?

How could a state prevent such lawsuits ? States are responsible for their own negligence, just like any other individual. And this is true even in "socialist" countries...
 
manny78 said:


How could a state prevent such lawsuits ? States are responsible for their own negligence, just like any other individual. And this is true even in "socialist" countries...

Not so.

States can preclude suits with legisaltion.

For example, if you are are arrested, jailed, tried and acquitted, you can't sue the state to recover your legal costs.

If you are convicted and later exonerated, states have passed laws that limit what you can receive.

States insulate themselves from negligence all the time. It's called "sovereign immunity" and it is very real in the US.
 
well, being that i am a social worker i dont know much about the legal aspect or how these things really work. i do know that in my state, the public guardians office has either filed complaints against or filed something against the dept. of children and family services on many issues/cases. the public guardians office is always finding some negligence on behalf of the dept. i do also know that most of these complaints/lawsuits (not sure which) have resulted in consent decrees which basically is an agreement made by both stating what policy/procedure changes would be made by the dept. in order to provide better service to the children in its care.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


Not so.

States can preclude suits with legisaltion.

For example, if you are are arrested, jailed, tried and acquitted, you can't sue the state to recover your legal costs.

If you are convicted and later exonerated, states have passed laws that limit what you can receive.

States insulate themselves from negligence all the time. It's called "sovereign immunity" and it is very real in the US.

I would have expected this in Canada but never in your country. We do have a derogatory clause in our Bill of Rights, but it was used like 4-5 times in the last 20 years. Other than that, Provinces must pay the full price if you were wrongly jailed...
 
AAP said:
One was 19... why didn't they go to the 7-11 and steal food or something... someone at school had to notice something.

Says in the article that they were home schooled and not allowed out of the house.
 
I'm sick to my stomach. I suggest severe beatings all around just to get the process going.
 
did you guys see the pictures of the kids? That's fucked
 
It made the cover of the NY Post.

The answer is to stop paying people to adopt kids.
 
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