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I want to visit the UAE...

Same as Dubai right!?

It's freakishly neat over there. I'd love to visit too. Amazing stuff going on and being built right now. There are people flocking there from all over the world to find work as laborers. Very poor people and very rich ones.

Why do you wanna go there?
 
curvymommy said:
Same as Dubai right!?

It's freakishly neat over there. I'd love to visit too. Amazing stuff going on and being built right now. There are people flocking there from all over the world to find work as laborers. Very poor people and very rich ones.

Why do you wanna go there?

Dubai is one of seven emirates: Abu Dhabi, Ajman, Dubai, Fujairah, Ras al-Khaimah, Sharjah, and Umm al-Quwain.
 
1) they have money
2) they own us
3) they can do whatever they want

as long as you respect that - you'll have a good time. disrespect anyone, and you're fucked.

r
 
just be careful you dont break any laws - like shacking up with someone other than your wife

or drinking outside of a hotel (the only places that can serve alcohol)
 
cindylou said:
just be careful you dont break any laws - like shacking up with someone other than your wife

or drinking outside of a hotel (the only places that can serve alcohol)

lol

Have you been to Dubai?

Most of Dubai is foreigners....shagging everywhere....alcohol and nightlight and nighclubs all over the place....beach parties and shit.....

Please tell me you're joking about above post
 
the_alcatraz said:
lol

Have you been to Dubai?

Most of Dubai is foreigners....shagging everywhere....alcohol and nightlight and nighclubs all over the place....beach parties and shit.....

Please tell me you're joking about above post


huh uh.

they dont enforce that stuff in Dubai, but its still law in the UAE

i was chatting about it with my travel agent two weeks ago.

this is what she said anyway.
 
they only drive mercedes. guy i know grew up on the border. said the reason they all have them (besides the fact that they are crazy rich) is that the mercedes are fucking cheap as hell. like a toyota here. he said thats changing now but when he was growing up they were under 20k american.
 
cindylou said:
huh uh.

they dont enforce that stuff in Dubai, but its still law in the UAE

i was chatting about it with my travel agent two weeks ago.

this is what she said anyway.

It's a crazy place - Dubai - If you're a party animal and want a quick fix, go there....there's EVERYTHING

But it's too damn expensive to live
 
the_alcatraz said:
It's a crazy place - Dubai - If you're a party animal and want a quick fix, go there....there's EVERYTHING

But it's too damn expensive to live
someone last night told me they pay the equivalent of $100,000 rent for something cheap over there.
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
someone last night told me they pay the equivalent of $100,000 rent for something cheap over there.


they are ridiculously rich. my brother did protection for a few of the shieks. my brother was treated like a celebrity. the shiek paid for anything and everything. new wardrobe, watches, dinners, everything. they didnt need the protection as they have their own on staff but its part of the agreement with the governments. the u.s. staff was pampered and treated like kings. he said it was too hard to even try believing.
 
timtim said:
they are ridiculously rich. my brother did protection for a few of the shieks. my brother was treated like a celebrity. the shiek paid for anything and everything. new wardrobe, watches, dinners, everything. they didnt need the protection as they have their own on staff but its part of the agreement with the governments. the u.s. staff was pampered and treated like kings. he said it was too hard to even try believing.
One of these days I will be OFT and working there :)
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
One of these days I will be OFT and working there :)


my brother said it was paradise. then he went to isreal, iraq, afghanistan, iran, and pakistan. reality sunk in quickly.
 
Dubai is highly overrated. Not much to do there except indoor stuff, which you can do here without spending a fortune.
 
The advice is the same no matter what contry you go to : "Don't do anything stupid".

There are plenty of americans who are still rotting in foreign jails, hospitals with huge bills or even dead (halloway anyone?) from doign stupid shit.

r
 
Razorguns said:
The advice is the same no matter what contry you go to : "Don't do anything stupid".

There are plenty of americans who are still rotting in foreign jails, hospitals with huge bills or even dead (halloway anyone?) from doign stupid shit.

r

I bet half of them are Texans.
 
Razorguns said:
dubai is not a place to go if you don't have money. neither is tokyo. tijuana is good though.

foreigners don't like our poor losers going over to vacation.

r

Better cross Monte Carlo off of your list as well, unless you make at least 6 figs after taxes.
 
Ok, I live here and don't think getting gear is as easy as you think.

It is the United Arab Emirates not the Union Arab Emirates - it is made up of 7 Emirates (like small cities) with Abu Dhabi being the capital and the oil hub and Dubai being the most popular city which makes more than 70% of its money from travel, tourism and retail. Dubai has very very little oil and does not make its money from oil as many believe.

It is the fastest growing city in the world and has a number of firsts and biggests to its name.

Biggest in door ski slope, tallest building in the world, etc etc.

I have been living here now for 3 years. If you need any more info, let me know.
 
timtim said:
they only drive mercedes. guy i know grew up on the border. said the reason they all have them (besides the fact that they are crazy rich) is that the mercedes are fucking cheap as hell. like a toyota here. he said thats changing now but when he was growing up they were under 20k american.

Wrong
 
Razorguns said:
1) they have money
2) they own us
3) they can do whatever they want

as long as you respect that - you'll have a good time. disrespect anyone, and you're fucked.

r

Nope they don't own you - it's the Saudi's own you.
 
cindylou said:
just be careful you dont break any laws - like shacking up with someone other than your wife

or drinking outside of a hotel (the only places that can serve alcohol)

Not true anymore either but yes, it is still quite restricted and wouldnt be a good idea to be walking about drunk in public.

Laws for tourists are slightly relaxed so long as it isnt being over done.

It's just common sense really - don't go to a foreign country and act like an idiot without showing appropriate respect for their cultures and traditions.

By the way about 75% of the population of the UAE is expatriates with only 25% being locals.

Population now would stand at about 5 million. It is was around 4.4m last year with a new survey to be done shortly.
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
someone last night told me they pay the equivalent of $100,000 rent for something cheap over there.

Only if they are living in a palace or a very exclusive area.

Average rent per year would be about 35,000 - 50,000 US dollars a year for a 1 bedroom
 
SlinSlin said:


you were living there 25 years ago? this guy who grew up in the region lied? why? makes zero sense to me. he said its not like that now, but when he was growing up it was.
 
SlinSlin said:
Not true anymore either


Drinking or possession of alcohol without a Ministry of Interior liquor permit is illegal and could result in arrest and/or fines and imprisonment. Alcohol is served at bars in most major hotels but is intended for guests of the hotel. Persons who are not guests of the hotel, and who consume alcohol in the restaurants and bars, technically are required to have their own personal liquor licenses. Liquor licenses are issued only to non-Muslim persons who possess UAE residency permits. Drinking and driving is considered a serious offense. Penalties generally are assessed according to religious law.


http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1050.html

I dont think they enforce it, but its still law.

Penalties assessed according to religious law?
 
I have been living here for the last 3 years and still live and work here for a large international organisation.

Mercedes here are cheaper than in other places of the world but no way near the price of a Toyota in the US.

Petrol is cheap that's for sure.
 
SlinSlin said:
I have been living here for the last 3 years and still live and work here for a large international organisation.

Mercedes here are cheaper than in other places of the world but no way near the price of a Toyota in the US.

Petrol is cheap that's for sure.


he said when he was growing up they were. im going by this guy who barely speaks english and is obviously a native to that region. i realize it would be different now but 25 years ago, it could very well have been.
 
cindylou said:
Drinking or possession of alcohol without a Ministry of Interior liquor permit is illegal and could result in arrest and/or fines and imprisonment. Alcohol is served at bars in most major hotels but is intended for guests of the hotel. Persons who are not guests of the hotel, and who consume alcohol in the restaurants and bars, technically are required to have their own personal liquor licenses. Liquor licenses are issued only to non-Muslim persons who possess UAE residency permits. Drinking and driving is considered a serious offense. Penalties generally are assessed according to religious law.


http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1050.html

I dont think they enforce it, but its still law.

Penalties assessed according to religious law?

Yes it is still the law but it is not enforced at all. A lot of the tourism in the UAE comes from local neighbouring countries where alcohol is illegal (Saudi's, Kuwaitis) so such a law is never enforced as people from these countries come on a weekly basis at the weekend

I do not have a licence (never needed one) and was stopped once by the police (yes they are actually very friendly) and he said you have had a bit too much to drink, dont make noise tonight.

On the bar thing / hotel thing. This used to be the case but there are an increasing number of outlets that are not in hotels but in close proximity to them that have started selling alcohol (legally).

There are also one or two clubs that are not attached to a hotel but serve alcohol (legally).
 
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SlinSlin said:
Yes it is still the law but it is not enforced at all. A lot of the tourism in the UAE comes from local neighbouring countries where alcohol is illegal (Saudi's, Kuwaitis) so such a law is never enforced as people from these countries come on a weekly basis at the weekend

I do not have a licence (never needed one) and was stopped once by the police (yes they are actually very friendly) and he said you have had a bit too much to drink, dont make noise tonight.

On the bar thing / hotel thing. This used to be the case but there are an increasing number of outlets that are not in hotels but in close proximity to them that have started selling alcohol (legally).

There are also one or two clubs that are not attached to a hotel but serve alcohol (legally).

This is all very true...
 
I would love to go to Dubai, to view the outrageous structures and the man made palm tree island
 
the_alcatraz said:
Nah, it's overrated. It's incredibly hot there, everything has to be done indoors (the ski resort is indoors), and the whole thing is set up for failure. Seriously, if there isn't a mass influx of new citizens, Dubai is set up for failure. Not even the tourism will be able to support it because there aren't enough people there to fill the jobs for all the proposed increased building. The construction workers are Asians that are there on temporary visas.

I really didn't enjoy Dubai that much. Again, I think it's highly overrated.
 
I can't wait to go over there to do business. The land of money. I'll know exactly how us politicians feel.

Oh btw while you're there - look for bin ladens.

r
 
statdoc said:
Nah, it's overrated. It's incredibly hot there, everything has to be done indoors (the ski resort is indoors), and the whole thing is set up for failure. Seriously, if there isn't a mass influx of new citizens, Dubai is set up for failure. Not even the tourism will be able to support it because there aren't enough people there to fill the jobs for all the proposed increased building. The construction workers are Asians that are there on temporary visas.

I really didn't enjoy Dubai that much. Again, I think it's highly overrated.

:rolleyes:

Incredibly hot here in the summer but people come in the winter when it gets quite cold and even westerners are seen walking round in sweaters.

The whole thing has been purposely built not to fail. There is way too much money invested in it for failure, the government is not stupid. Dubai is the hub for the Middle East and every large multinational has a Middle East Hub over here - Microsoft, CNN, Sony, Nivea, Panasonic - the list goes on in the hundreds.

As previously mentioned it is the fastest city in the world and the population is growing at a rate of 7% per year and house supply cannot keep up with demand which is why house prices are quite high.

Yes the majority of workers are from the subcontinent but they are not on temporary visas. This is something the government works seriously to counter with a number of companies being fined for such - even locally owned companies. Raids are performed on these companies to ensure this is not the case. Quite some money is made by the government for visas so they would not lose out on this by allowing labourers to work on temp visas.

Every so often amnesty is announced by the government to allow workers to go back home without being fined if they have been working illegally oh and they actually make 2-3 times more than they would back home - albeit still not much.

The truth is they come here to save money and send it back to their families.

Not the most ideal worlds but a lot of your post is factually incorrect. I have a lot of interaction with labourers and talk openly and freely to them.

Whilst there is a number of faults and the country is not perfect, if people did not like it they would not move or live here.

PS. Some of the largest companies in the world are owned by the Dubai government. It was incredibly smart back in the 60's and 70's to realise it's oil supplies were very limited and instead went about plans to build itself as a tourism and retail hub and set itself up as one of the main ports in the world.
 
Razorguns said:
I can't wait to go over there to do business. The land of money. I'll know exactly how us politicians feel.

Oh btw while you're there - look for bin ladens.

r

You will never find terrorism in the UAE - too much money is invested in it for that.

Oh and FYI - the Binladin family is one of the richest, most successful families in Saudi who exiled there brother/son - Osama - once they felt he was too extremist.
 
SlinSlin said:
You will never find terrorism in the UAE - too much money is invested in it for that.

Oh and FYI - the Binladin family is one of the richest, most successful families in Saudi who exiled there brother/son - Osama - once they felt he was too extremist.

If you said this on 9/12 you'd get your ass kicked!!!

This is bullshit. We all know all muslims are evil and hellbent on world destruction. Our President said this. This is why we will sacrifice our young men for their freedoms. That'll show them fuckers!!! USA!!

r
 
Razorguns said:
If you said this on 9/12 you'd get your ass kicked!!!

This is bullshit. We all know all muslims are evil and hellbent on world destruction. Our President said this. This is why we will sacrifice our young men for their freedoms. That'll show them fuckers!!! USA!!

r

lmao, this message from you is way too ignorant for you to even believe and why Bush came over here on two visits recently - I hope - if not, well then I just feel sorry
 
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