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Outtlaw

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As hard as it is for me to believe, I think I may have got screwed. At 1st I thought it was my cycle, cause I sort of fucked up the first 4wks of my injects due to b.s. and other problems. But the last 4wks I've been on point. Im now 9wks into this cycle and I've gained 5lbs MAX. Not to mention my strength is nowhere near where it should be, or even used to be. The last time I had gains like this was about 2yrs ago when I got a fake batch of gear. And I know it's not me, cause my diet and training is just as good as it always has been. I did use a different source this time around (which might have been a bad move).

I dont know what to do at this point. I just threw in some tren to see if that would help things out, but that came from the same source as well. Im thinking of chucking this whole cycle and just running the little bit of gear I have left over from other cycles that I know for a fact is legit. But this whole situation just SUCKS!!
 
Outtlaw said:
As hard as it is for me to believe, I think I may have got screwed. At 1st I thought it was my cycle, cause I sort of fucked up the first 4wks of my injects due to b.s. and other problems. But the last 4wks I've been on point. Im now 9wks into this cycle and I've gained 5lbs MAX. Not to mention my strength is nowhere near where it should be, or even used to be. The last time I had gains like this was about 2yrs ago when I got a fake batch of gear. And I know it's not me, cause my diet and training is just as good as it always has been. I did use a different source this time around (which might have been a bad move).

I dont know what to do at this point. I just threw in some tren to see if that would help things out, but that came from the same source as well. Im thinking of chucking this whole cycle and just running the little bit of gear I have left over from other cycles that I know for a fact is legit. But this whole situation just SUCKS!!


I found my source and I stick with him, for that reason if nothing else.
 
5 pounds in NOT bad at all!!!!

of course, first time users can gain up to 20 pounds.
but after 3-4 cycles, the gains arent nearly as big.

shit.. ill take 5 pounds per cycle any time!!!
 
indy69camaro said:
I found my source and I stick with him, for that reason if nothing else.
Yeah, I should've just stuck with the guys I know and trust. Hard lesson learned I suppose.
 
satchboogie said:
5 pounds in NOT bad at all!!!!

of course, first time users can gain up to 20 pounds.
but after 3-4 cycles, the gains arent nearly as big.

shit.. ill take 5 pounds per cycle any time!!!
True, but we're not talking 5 normal pounds. I dieted myself down to a sickening 210lbs. I should've easily been back pushing 230 by now. Something is not right. Plus my strength says it all. I had to struggle, and I mean STRUGGLE with 80lb dumbells the other day on bench. Never, never have I been that weak while on cycle.
 
so you mean you dieted to 210 and then began this cycle?
 
man i knows whut u mean it really sucks but its going to happen with everyone from time to time.. i guess u just get one source and stick with em' even though unless that guy is ug lab cause unless hes making itwho knows even ur source could get fake shit
 
sounds like a problem!

what gear you using and where is it from?
 
Its All Genetics said:
man i knows whut u mean it really sucks but its going to happen with everyone from time to time.. i guess u just get one source and stick with em' even though unless that guy is ug lab cause unless hes making itwho knows even ur source could get fake shit
Very true. Im pretty good at spotting fakes. But the one time I got scammed the fakes were so good they were completely indistinguishable from the legit gear.
 
satchboogie said:
sounds like a problem!

what gear you using and where is it from?
Im using the greek normas and Galenika test. Everything says they should be legit, but I dont know what to say. Gains normally dont lie. I had the same thing with testex, perfect replica... but fake as hell.
 
satchboogie said:
5 pounds in NOT bad at all!!!!

of course, first time users can gain up to 20 pounds.
but after 3-4 cycles, the gains arent nearly as big.

shit.. ill take 5 pounds per cycle any time!!!
all the shit u say u do and u r happy w/ 5lbs per cycle. i must have done around 40 cycles and i've never gained only 5lbs. :rolleyes:


:( -trust who u've been trusting. sounds like u may indeed have fake shit.
 
hanibal said:
all the shit u say u do and u r happy w/ 5lbs per cycle. i must have done around 40 cycles and i've never gained only 5lbs. :rolleyes:


:( -trust who u've been trusting. sounds like u may indeed have fake shit.

ok so you must weigh 500 pounds by now!
 
no more like 218. WTF are u talking about. what i meant was i've always gained more than 5lbs each cycle except when cutting. first cycle was a mass gain cycle in 1993. i gained 28lbs in 6 weeks w/ just organon sus. if i were to do the same cycle now i might gain 15 lbs. my body soaks up any drug like a sponge. i guess i'm lucky.
- don't talk stupid.
he said he was dieting before he started and is 9 weeks and is only up 5lbs....that sounds normal to u??? he either has fake shit or is using too low of doses, which i doubt.
 
hanibal said:
no more like 218. WTF are u talking about. what i meant was i've always gained more than 5lbs each cycle except when cutting. first cycle was a mass gain cycle in 1993. i gained 28lbs in 6 weeks w/ just organon sus. if i were to do the same cycle now i might gain 15 lbs. my body soaks up any drug like a sponge. i guess i'm lucky.
- don't talk stupid.
he said he was dieting before he started and is 9 weeks and is only up 5lbs....that sounds normal to u??? he either has fake shit or is using too low of doses, which i doubt.


blah blah blah...
you said youve done "AT LEAST 40 CYCLES" and always gained more than 5 pounds....

and your skinny ass only weights 218.. lmfao!

get real... get your facts straight..and stop exaggerating.. and oh... GROW THE FUCK UP KID!
 
Outtlaw said:
As hard as it is for me to believe, I think I may have got screwed. At 1st I thought it was my cycle, cause I sort of fucked up the first 4wks of my injects due to b.s. and other problems. But the last 4wks I've been on point. Im now 9wks into this cycle and I've gained 5lbs MAX. Not to mention my strength is nowhere near where it should be, or even used to be. The last time I had gains like this was about 2yrs ago when I got a fake batch of gear. And I know it's not me, cause my diet and training is just as good as it always has been. I did use a different source this time around (which might have been a bad move).

I dont know what to do at this point. I just threw in some tren to see if that would help things out, but that came from the same source as well. Im thinking of chucking this whole cycle and just running the little bit of gear I have left over from other cycles that I know for a fact is legit. But this whole situation just SUCKS!!


get it tested and let everyone know who sent u fake gear
 
Now, this is just me. But I'm happy to gain 5-10lbs in a cycle. My ideal enviroment is no bloat, and slow, steady strength and LBM gains. In Outlaws case, none of those characteristics seem to to be in place and that is def evidence of fake shit. However, anybody who has used Galenika Test knows that while it's good shit, they can take forever to kick in.
But, by week 9 this shouldn't be the case. Can't be sure, but I'd say ya got screwed. Norma and ICN do have some pretty close fakes floating around! Sorry if that's the case Bro.
 
satchboogie said:
blah blah blah...
you said youve done "AT LEAST 40 CYCLES" and always gained more than 5 pounds....

and your skinny ass only weights 218.. lmfao!

get real... get your facts straight..and stop exaggerating.. and oh... GROW THE FUCK UP KID!

K to you. :p
 
I've still got some leftover gear from a trusted UG lab that I used to put back on the 30 or so lbs I lost post surgery this summer. Im contemplating running a fast acting tren/winny/prop combo for a couple weeks to try and at least make up something. Either that, or just take a break and stay natural for a while.
 
ya I have seen some of those norma and they can look so real. The Galenika are said, by many, to be mostly real but I have my doubts. I used ICN for 4 weeks and gained nothing except a hard-on. So I added in some EQ and after 8weeks I’m leaning out and finally got the strength during my work out. I still think the ICN stuff is fake. It’s all about who you know because some of that UG sh*t is almost comical when you think about labels and such.

Here is a pic of Galenika that was check out but I still think is fake.
also 0416 checks out...
 
satchboogie said:
5 pounds in NOT bad at all!!!!

of course, first time users can gain up to 20 pounds.
but after 3-4 cycles, the gains arent nearly as big.

shit.. ill take 5 pounds per cycle any time!!!
Satch is right on 5lbs of muscle NOT WATER is not that bad,its not great but its a gain in the right direction IMHO.
 
Outtlaw said:
Im using the greek normas and Galenika test. Everything says they should be legit, but I dont know what to say. Gains normally dont lie. I had the same thing with testex, perfect replica... but fake as hell.
Try using UG gear and you'll never go wrong. Plus, you'll save yourself money to run a year cycle free next year.
 
satchboogie said:
blah blah blah...
you said youve done "AT LEAST 40 CYCLES" and always gained more than 5 pounds....

and your skinny ass only weights 218.. lmfao!




OK! Enough of this right now!
RADAR
 
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