I think I am ready to go again,....

[Stryker1992]

Okay bros, the last two years I have spent a hell of a lot more time on then off, but I have been off since agust and I am getting tired of it.

I am thinking an 8 week dbol/test program.

20mg's of dbol weeks 1-4 and 500 mgs' of test all 8 weeks.

Only HCG at week 4-5 and two weeks after week 8.

What do you think????????

You should know I am a semi-pro soccer player and do not want to be huge. Just strong and sexy.

 

[Anthony Starks]

Okay bros, the last two years I have spent a hell of a lot more time on then off, but I have been off since agust and I am getting tired of it.

I am thinking an 8 week dbol/test program.

20mg's of dbol weeks 1-4 and 500 mgs' of test all 8 weeks.

Only HCG at week 4-5 and two weeks after week 8.

What do you think????????

You should know I am a semi-pro soccer player and do not want to be huge. Just strong and sexy.

I would drop the HCG two weeks after week eight, everything else seems good.

 

[INNOCENT]

the only thing i was thinking was dbol making you have major pumps.. that could play a big role especially in soccer. but at that dose you may be ok. just putting my .02 in for ya man.

 

[help4john]

I'm thinking you may want to replace the DBOL with some Var (or end with Winny) simply because of your goals. DBOL will cause you to gain weight and is not really the "drug of choice" for conditioning endurance athletes like soccer players.

HCG start week 9 (keep weeks 4-5). Week 10 start Clomid/Nolva. Good luck!

 

[Stryker1992]

Now that I thnik about it, you are both right, the d-bol causes me to get bad back pumps during games and seems to impact my aerobic capacity.

I hate winny, it kills my joint. Maybe some var!!!!

I do love the d-bol though!!!!!!!!

Indoor season is still going and the d-bol would be a bad idea. Spring is a good time for it before outdoor. The x-tra weight is more needed then for hard tackles and shoving.

 

[Anthony Starks]

Can you explain why you are starting HCG two weeks after your last shot when your body should be starting its recovery?

 

[Stryker1992]

Can you explain why you are starting HCG two weeks after your last shot when your body should be starting its recovery?

It is used when shutdown is still implicated just post cycle on long acting esters. It is a less common practice now then it used to be. Low doses keep recovery good, not high doses people talk about that will increase shutdown.

 

[Anthony Starks]

It is used when shutdown is still implicated just post cycle on long acting esters. It is a less common practice now then it used to be. Low doses keep recovery good, not high doses people talk about that will increase shutdown.

Just post cycle I could understand, but two weeks after the last shot is too late. A lot of people don't understand that HCG is suppressive to HTPA recovery and can desensitize your Leydig cells which can make recovery even more difficult. IMO its only use is during a cycle when athropy of the gonads occurs, but if you plan to use it post cycle it should be in the first week after last shot.

 

[TheRide]

Now that I thnik about it, you are both right, the d-bol causes me to get bad back pumps during games and seems to impact my aerobic capacity.

I hate winny, it kills my joint. Maybe some var!!!!

I do love the d-bol though!!!!!!!!

Indoor season is still going and the d-bol would be a bad idea. Spring is a good time for it before outdoor. The x-tra weight is more needed then for hard tackles and shoving.

What about EQ 400 for 12 weeks and var weeks 1-6 @ 40/day??? THinking about the soccer thing-might give you leaner gains w/out the bloat.

 

[Stryker1992]

What about EQ 400 for 12 weeks and var weeks 1-6 @ 40/day??? THinking about the soccer thing-might give you leaner gains w/out the bloat.

I have not ever used eq due to the mixed reviews i hear about it.

 

[Stryker1992]

Just post cycle I could understand, but two weeks after the last shot is too late. A lot of people don't understand that HCG is suppressive to HTPA recovery and can desensitize your Leydig cells which can make recovery even more difficult. IMO its only use is during a cycle when athropy of the gonads occurs, but if you plan to use it post cycle it should be in the first week after last shot.

Thanks bro, I do know it is suppressive at certain levels.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Thanks bro, I do know it is suppressive at certain levels.

12 posts... LMAO, cant they fix your post count?

 

[Stryker1992]

12 posts... LMAO, cant they fix your post count?

They are trying man. You should see al the insults I am getting from real new jacks b/c of my data!!!!!!!!!!!! It is kind of a shot to my esteem. I use to have a k power of 20, now it is 0000000000000000000000000000

Mother fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Flame them all.........