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I suck at making fina

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hugecalves

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Okay, I'm an idiot. I'm pushing the fina throught the filter into the sterile vial and it was taking forever, so I keep adding pressure to the plunger when *boom* the fucking syringe pops out of the filter and I suirt fina all over the table *sob*. No matter how much I tried I cannot get the rest of my fina through the filter so I just put it directly into the vial. So, can I get another kit, make another batch and then filter what I have now into the final product from the new kit?
 
If I were you I'd get another kit and just add it like you said. I do feel for ya bro. I was really nervous the first time I made it. I thought for sure the filter was gonna explode cause it took so much pressure to push the oil through but everything worked out fine. Every time I order a kit now, I get two extra sterile filters, they're great to have around. Good luck next time man.

WRJ
 
the opposite happened to me...it squirted UP the syringe...WTF??? it was wierd as well like came back up the pluger....from now on will only filter 10ml with each filter and....Heres a tip that might help:
Stick another pin in the sterile vial to release preasure but heres a twist:
If it is coming out too slow still it can help to create a vacum in the vial by sucking out a on the extra needle
 
I wouldn't recommend the coffee filter- it absorbs several ml's of the solution and is very time consuming. If you let the solution sit for 48+ hrs all the sediment that wouldve been removed by the coffee filter will settle at the bottom, and you can just draw up the solution to filter and leave the sediment at the bottom. More simple, more efficient IMO. And don't get too impatient when filtering; applying too much pressure can actually slow down the flow... just be patient...think of it as a finger workout :)
 
B182 said:
I wouldn't recommend the coffee filter- it absorbs several ml's of the solution and is very time consuming. If you let the solution sit for 48+ hrs all the sediment that wouldve been removed by the coffee filter will settle at the bottom, and you can just draw up the solution to filter and leave the sediment at the bottom. More simple, more efficient IMO. And don't get too impatient when filtering; applying too much pressure can actually slow down the flow... just be patient...think of it as a finger workout :)
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Actually its not hard at all. Not even just a little bit. And you can squeeze those ml's out of the coffee filter. On one of A's sites it shows the right way to fold it and all. Lets put it this way, the guy at the top who started this thread lost all of his fina(I'm assuming). Would you have rather him lost all of it by clogging the filter? or just a ml by coffee filtering it.?
 
EmptyWallet said:


Actually its not hard at all. Not even just a little bit. And you can squeeze those ml's out of the coffee filter. On one of A's sites it shows the right way to fold it and all. Lets put it this way, the guy at the top who started this thread lost all of his fina(I'm assuming). Would you have rather him lost all of it by clogging the filter? or just a ml by coffee filtering it.?
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True.
 
coffee filter... hmm... goood idea...
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Coffee filter wastes as much if not more since a lot of the liquid is absorbed and held in the filter, then you have to wring that damn thing out etc.

hugecalves, so your saying the needle came off the filter or the syring came off the filter? Either way, sounds like there was too much preasure in the sterile vial making it hard to push more fluid in, did you have a needle stuck though to releive preasure while you were sterile filtering into the vial?????
 
my filter got stuck too i just cleaned it out. i took it out sucked up clean water in one way, then through the other way. and boom clean the fina flowed again.
 
I have only made one batch but I put a needle in through the top so the pressure could equalize so that wouldnt happen. I have to say that IMO the needle in the top is the best way of doing it. Why? Cause Zyg said so, and THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!

heh heh....

Hope I could help you out

Chuck
 
I have to say that IMO the needle in the top is the best way of doing it. Why? Cause Zyg said so, and THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!
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It actually has nothing to do with me saying so its all common sense. The whole process is simple. The sterile vial was sealed and there was no preasure, not if you heat the vial the air will eaxpand casuing preasure. If you inject a liquid, especially something that is not compressable like oil you increase the preasure in the vial. There comes a pint where the preasure you can exert with a syring is less than the internal preasure in the vial and something has to give. This is how sterile filters are blown apart etc. Its just commons sense to insert a need into the stopper to relieve the preasure. Far to many people simply browse the instructions and rush through it. Oh well they all learn, some the hard way, at least its not a very expensive mistake usually.
 
Yeah, I know, I'm just messing around with you Zyg cause you are always on top of any fina questions that are asked.

It does make total sense if you think to do it. But not all people think to do it. Not flamin anyone or callin them dumb b/c I will be the first to admit that I have the hardest time figuring out something that is right in front of my face and probably obvious to everyone except me.... So if you do it this way that should no longer be a problem. Good Luck hugecalves

Chuck
 
EmptyWallet said:


Actually its not hard at all. Not even just a little bit. And you can squeeze those ml's out of the coffee filter. On one of A's sites it shows the right way to fold it and all. Lets put it this way, the guy at the top who started this thread lost all of his fina(I'm assuming). Would you have rather him lost all of it by clogging the filter? or just a ml by coffee filtering it.?
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No, I'd rather him use a more simple, and efficient process, and am trying to correct possible errors when he did the procedure. I know it's very possible to go without a coffee filter even when using a .22 micron filter, which is smaller in pore size than what most kits use( .45um). If it didn't work then why did A take the coffee filter part out of his kits long ago? Why does virtually every other kit maker not include a coffee filter if it is so vital to the process?
 
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haha, just read my above post, looks like a cat walked across my keyboard since the spelling is so horseshit :). Oh well, it was early and my fingers were not cooperating with my mind yet :)
 
B182 said:


No, I'd rather him use a more simple, and efficient process, and am trying to correct possible errors when he did the procedure. I know it's very possible to go without a coffee filter even when using a .22 micron filter, which is smaller in pore size than what most kits use( .45um). If it didn't work then why did A take the coffee filter part out of his kits long ago? Why does virtually every other kit maker not include a coffee filter if it is so vital to the process?
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Good lord, I didnt say it was vital. It was Just a RECOMMENDATION(sp). He said it was difficult to filter and I just SUGGESTED something. Geez, you'd think I tried to re-write the bible or something.
 
Basically put, if the directions are followed and one is patient and takes thier time coffee filtering is not needed and just adds extra steps and mess while not offering any benefit. As long as one does not suck up the goo, which by the way does not contain tren since its in the liquid, not the solid goo, there should be no issues with clogging a filter. I ran my whole last 8gf batch through one filter with no probs at all. A .22 filter is overkill and not needed either, hell just running oil through a .22 is a trial of patience.
 
I did the SAME SHIT dude! I felt like Lenny from Animal Farm trying to pet a mouse. I was getting all impatient and pushing harder and harder and then WHAMMMO, all my fina squirted back up the tube after the seal on the plunger broke.

It is a damned funny image I have of myself all roided out and trying to force this shit through a big ole syringe and having it blow up like that. Unbelievable.
 
I like using pre-filters instead of the coffee filter method. Then I will buy an extra bottle or two and just filter it with both a 45 and 22um filter. A hell of a lot faster than waiting for the oil to diffuse through the coffee filter. Just run a cc (or more) of oil through each filter to wash through any hormone that may be trapped in each filter.

BMJ
 
ok

i order filter papers. fuck them coffee filters, they flake etc. non sterile for sure etc...

get the GOOD shit.

later
 
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