I have some ???? about mail ordering

[RRR]

I've placed orders for things such as clomid/hcg/proviron, but never any other drugs. So I here are my questions:

1) Whats the % that you have received orders through mail without any problems with customs??

2) What happens if customs does open your package and finds gear? How screwed are you??

Thanks

 

[HULKSTER]

I've placed orders for things such as clomid/hcg/proviron, but never any other drugs. So I here are my questions:

1) Whats the % that you have received orders through mail without any problems with customs??

2) What happens if customs does open your package and finds gear? How screwed are you??

Thanks

Bro, here is the Hulkster's tried and true advice on how to get around Customs and their fucking bullshit computers:

After much personal experience and discussion with other EF members, I've found that:

1. Don't use BOXHOLDER or CURRENT RESIDENT as the receipent's name if using a P.O. Box when receiving an international package. You are only asking for the package to be ripped open.

2. Never use your real name. Customs can use that real name to run it through their database, and come up with all that person's known addresses (as Mod Mike Maggio pointed out on the Legal Forum). So what to do------

THIS IS MY OWN ORIGINAL, PERSONAL ADVICE:

Don't use your own real name, or BOXHOLDER/Current Resident. Use a variation of your real name. If your real name is Thomas Sizemore, have it sent to Tom Sezimor. There is enough of a variation that Custom's computers can't match your fake alias with your real name, but the variation of your real name is still close enough to your real name that USPS employees will see that the intended receipient is really you, but that the sender just made a mistake in spelling. This works very well, with numerous variations/alias possible, especially if you have long, ethnic last names like Italians and Greeks.

HOW COME YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS:

Because US Customs' computers, like all computers, can only do EXACTLY what they are told. They have no INTELLIGENCE, which is a quality that only the computers' human creators possess. So a computer can only track down the EXACT name given; it cannot look to see if you varied your name in any way in order to pull a fast one on US Customs---because that requires INTELLIGENCE.

 

[FBodyGuy]

ok, so if we shouldn't send to our home residence, or to a PO box..then where to?

Thanks.

 

[KINGKONG69]

If customs opens it you will most likely just get a letter, unless you ordered a huge bulk order. most of us on this board have gotten them damm letters before.

 

[HULKSTER]

ok, so if we shouldn't send to our home residence, or to a PO box..then where to?

Thanks.

Do send it to a P.O. Box, just don't use "BOXHOLDER" or "CURRENT RESIDENT". Nor should you use your REAL NAME. Use a variation of your real name; thus Customs computers can't track down your information related to your real name, but you won't make Customs employees suspicious by using BOXHOLDER or CURRENT RESIDENT. Furthermore, if you use a variation of your real name, and Customs seizes your package and enters it into your computer, it doesn't matter! Why? Because you gave a fake name, and you can also create a new one! So Customs can not use their computers to run your name to see if you are flagged, for your name will be different from the last time you received a delivery. Just create a new variation of your real name for every new delivery that you have coming into the country. Remember, computers can only track down and bring up information on the exact names given; if you never use your real name, and you also change your fake name continually, Customs's computer databases will be useless against you! And for those that say,"Well, they will still flag the address", guess what? Get a new P.O. Box, along with a new variation of your name, and Customs will have neither a previously flagged address or name to use against you! This advice will stop Customs TECH II computers COLD!!!!

 

[bbkingpin]

ok, so if we shouldn't send to our home residence, or to a PO box..then where to?

Thanks.

What he is saying is don't put in place of a name "Boxholder" (if you have it sent to a PO Box) or "Current Resident" (if you have it sent to your address). Instead, just vary your own name (e.g., Danny Buck to Denny Bock) so that it is still recognizable by the USPS employees so that they will still deliver it.

 

[BrickGirl]

Varying your name is probably a good idea, but saying that a program can't do wildcard searches is way off I don't know of any programs that don't do wildcard searches, the same way your phone company information looks up a phone number.

 

[Zyglamail]

Proviron is sched III as far as I know so if your ordering that and expect customs to let a 90 day supply slide, dont hold your breath.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Proviron is sched III as far as I know so if your ordering that and expect customs to let a 90 day supply slide, dont hold your breath.

Anyone have a link that gives a list of scheduled items? Just wondering what types of things thet let you import a 90-day supply of...if they even do this...I have my doubts.

 

[OAKBOX]

Use your next door neighbors address and put HIS name on it!

 

[RRR]

Thanks for all your replies. So let me get this straight If you order a small supply for example 20 amps of sus and thats it, the chances of cops going to your house are slim??? Also if you do get one of those letters your ok, no cops come to your door, you just can't receive an order to that same po box/residence?

I'm just a little nervous about ordering like this. But its probably the only way for me and its also cheaper too

 

[Zyglamail]

I'm just a little nervous about ordering like this. But its probably the only way for me and its also cheaper too

You should be nervous, if you havent done so read Rick Collins book. The government we pay to protect us could care less about us(and this goes double for the federal employees as well), if they did they wouldnt be locking people up for steroid use, they would be trying to help educate them and make their use safe as possible. Our governemt gives away 10 billion dollars a year in foreign aid, most of which will never be returned, but you, as an american citizen, are second class and all your tax dollars go to help other nations instead of helping your own. They would rather forgive foreign debt and lock your ass up than worry about helping you.

 

[Citruscide]

Legal Muscle has charts in the appendix regarding all scheduled AAS... and various state laws as well.

C-ditty

 

[DTOX]

Legal Muscle has charts in the appendix regarding all scheduled AAS... and various state laws as well.

C-ditty

Holy cow!

Citruscide replied to a post instead of locking the thread!

IT'S THE EASTER MIRACLE

 

[bumpo]

what do you care anyway bro you most likely got scammed.

JK

www.reala-a.com

 

[little chris]

If you get a PO box don't you have to show them your license which would have your REAL name and REAL address on it. I understand you said to use a fake name and the PO box but what happens if customs calls the post office its going to and asks what the reciever's information says?

Is this possible?

 

[FBodyGuy]

If you get a PO box don't you have to show them your license which would have your REAL name and REAL address on it. I understand you said to use a fake name and the PO box but what happens if customs calls the post office its going to and asks what the reciever's information says?

Is this possible?

Yeah that's my question too... I mean it seems as if customs or whoever wants to get your REAL info, they could.

 

[Zyglamail]

PO places have to furnish all info supplied to them on the owner of the bos to the USPS. If you lie on a PO box then its mail fruad in addition to receiving sched III items.

 

[Citruscide]

Holy cow!

Citruscide replied to a post instead of locking the thread!

IT'S THE EASTER MIRACLE

Zaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh????

C-ditty

 

[Citruscide]

PO places have to furnish all info supplied to them on the owner of the bos to the USPS. If you lie on a PO box then its mail fruad in addition to receiving sched III items.

Exactamundo.

C-ditty

 

[freakazoid]

also,if you order a larger quantity,have it sent to 2 different addresses.that way smaller packages look less suspicious,and if one gets seized you wont loose all of it.i have ordered as much as 100 amps from europe.it was sent to 2 different addys in 5 different small packages sent 1-2 days apart..imo its safer getting through customs like this,also as soon as you get it dont open it.wright RETURN TO SENDER on it and leave on top of the refridgerator or somthing for 4-5 days.if they are going to bust you they will most likely do it within a day or so.that way if you do get busted you can say you didnt order anything and dont know what it was and you were going to send it back.

 

[FBodyGuy]

What do you guys prefer to use: PO Box or MBE box?
Any advantages of one over the other? I'm assumning both work the same way...give your real info to rent the box...etc. & how much does renting these types of boxes generally cost?

Thanks for any input.

 

[freakazoid]

What do you guys prefer to use: PO Box or MBE box?
Any advantages of one over the other? imo,one is just as good as the other,although i think mbe will sighn for a package in your absence.and i would use your real name when setting up an account,thats just one more charge you would face if you were to get busted.just have the sender mis spell your name.

 

[Tricepratus]

also,if you order a larger quantity,have it sent to 2 different addresses.that way smaller packages look less suspicious,and if one gets seized you wont loose all of it.i have ordered as much as 100 amps from europe.it was sent to 2 different addys in 5 different small packages sent 1-2 days apart..imo its safer getting through customs like this,also as soon as you get it dont open it.wright RETURN TO SENDER on it and leave on top of the refridgerator or somthing for 4-5 days.if they are going to bust you they will most likely do it within a day or so.that way if you do get busted you can say you didnt order anything and dont know what it was and you were going to send it back.

Good advice. Please all follow it

 

[genarr3]

Anyone have a link that gives a list of scheduled items? Just wondering what types of things thet let you import a 90-day supply of...if they even do this...I have my doubts.

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/listby_sched/sched1.htm

 

[Bulldog_10]

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/listby_sched/sched1.htm

Interesting. Is there also a site that lists penalties according to amount? And I'm assuming that schedule one and two drugs are more strictly enforced than schedule 3, right?

 

[SwitchedOn]

If the state is prosecuting your case then the laws can vary widely from state to state. This is more than likely what will happen if it's a personal use amount of gear in question.
The schedule runs from 1-5 with 1 being the most serious, 5 being the least.

 

[RRR]

what about signing for packages, should you not sign, or sign a fake name?