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John G

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I am tired of bothering with the supplements and the prohormones or whatever. I have done some research. My Worries about the juice: Bitch tits, Small Balls, fucked up liver/kidneys. My question: I want to juice, what is out there which is effective with little or minor side effects, what they are, chances of it happening, and what I can do before hand if anything to prevent all side effects associated with the juice if possible. I am 19 years old, 175 lbs, working out for 7 months. Used the Creatine, still take my protein, trying a stack/cycle of 4 diol and 19 nor. Why so many questions? Why should you help me out? Well first off the people on this board posses the knownledge through experience. I don't wanna put my body through hell and back if I can avoid it. That doesn't mean you should help me out or have too, but I am just getting fustrated. I have hit a plateu and would like to continue my progress. I would like to be guided in the right direction. Help me out boys.

Thanks,

John G.
 
well if ur looking for safety, decent gains, lots of strength, id go with an anavar only cycle. just my .02 cents
 
Try the wait till your older stack. 7 months of training is too quick to abandon your ability to gain naturally. If you hit a plateu switch things up, (diet, training schedule, sleep,etc....). Educate yourself a few more years then make a decision.
 
:fro: I feel ya bro. just look around and use the search and you will find the answers. I just got made fun of today because i dont post alot oh well I read the latest posts and guess what I dont have to post a question because the answers are given. also check out www.anabolicreview.com they have alot of profiles on the gear. just a few. Primobolan Depot, Winny, clen, ech, eq and masteron. hit the search and u will find the exact names of these gear items. P.S. Email a MOD when you think you found the gear u want to use.:D My opinion only. your brother in the iron game. Saint7
 
oh:fro: one more thing if your looking for a workout program check out www.biggerfasterstronger.com the have a training program book that should help as well. when i was doing the program in highschool i would gain 30 to 100 pounds on my one rep max w/o the gear so needless to say i wonder:idea: what its going to be like on the gear.
 
Hey Saint7 I also did the BFS program in high school Fritch, Texas (football). Damn I grew! I wish I could get gains like that again. I am thinking of trying it again now 27 years old. Thanks for the link. You may not post much put what you do post in great!
 
This is not intended to be a flame. But you think you hit a plateu after 7 months? Are you joking? It took me 10 years. Dude train a few years and learn what's it's really all about before you reach for the juice.
Genarr3
 
Im with strengthmonster, with 7 months training under your belt and by your post tossing your hands in the air asking for guidance tells me you dont have the dedication. Keep reading for a few more years and when it makes sense, you'll be ready to go.
 
19 is to young and u haven't been lifting all that long. U have not even come close to your natural potential.....give it time Bro! Eat good, lift hard and the gains will come!

Remember not to overtrain muscles......that is usually the biggest problem when u first start to weight train.

i was skinny as fuck and it was hard for me to gain weight but it did happen.....it took time!
 
with 7 monthsa training you still shall be growing like a werd when you are training and eating right and I presume NOT, so try to find out what's happening before you juice
 
I agree. I have trained for 7 years and I am a lot bigger than a lot of dudes at the gym with a similar frame that juice. Dont start now. I will be starting my first cycle soon. It took me many years of training to get to this point. You dont know shit about lifting at 7 months, you dont know shit about diet yet either. Get a subscription to flex or muscle and fitness and READ. Learn the Weider principles and use them. You are way too young to juice. .02
 
If you really can't wait go with anavar only. Don't take anything serious now till you are older and have more training experience.

This is exactly what i am doing now....
 
Its so hard

I am very dedicated to my workouts. I guess its one of my personal traits to be very competative when it comes to certain things. Seven Months isn't that long at all. My diet is suffering right now. It is just really hard to keep track and stuff. But it seems as if Anavar is the AS of choice. Thanks Guys. I guess I will train for another year or so and see what it brings me. I think I could be overtraining and not getting enough sleep. Let see what happens. Thank again people.

John G.
 
genarr3 said:
This is not intended to be a flame. But you think you hit a plateu after 7 months? Are you joking? It took me 10 years. Dude train a few years and learn what's it's really all about before you reach for the juice.
Genarr3
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im with genarr3 on this one bro, 7 months is too short a time , wait a while bro and do some research too.
 
lincoln said:
Anavar

or

Andriol if you want no side effects and no gains!
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why bashing andriol its still a anabolic steroid , it just gets destroyed by the liver ,why does everyone say its worth less when if injected can yeild greatgains this is similar to another oral androgen that people says sucks but for fear of the horrible flame burns ill just mention andriol, testosrterone aNY type will not work orally
 
John G said:
I am tired of bothering with the supplements and the prohormones or whatever. I have done some research. My Worries about the juice: Bitch tits, Small Balls, fucked up liver/kidneys. My question: I want to juice, what is out there which is effective with little or minor side effects, what they are, chances of it happening, and what I can do before hand if anything to prevent all side effects associated with the juice if possible. I am 19 years old, 175 lbs, working out for 7 months. Used the Creatine, still take my protein, trying a stack/cycle of 4 diol and 19 nor. Why so many questions? Why should you help me out? Well first off the people on this board posses the knownledge through experience. I don't wanna put my body through hell and back if I can avoid it. That doesn't mean you should help me out or have too, but I am just getting fustrated. I have hit a plateu and would like to continue my progress. I would like to be guided in the right direction. Help me out boys.

Thanks,

John G.
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how about you train for a few more years. yeah, that sounds like a great idea.
 
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