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I am OUT ON BAIL

MattTheSkywalker

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I am out on bail for DUI. I came in at .13 - the legal limit in FL is .08.

I didn't refuse the test because in FL, refusal gets you a one year suspension among other issues.

I was arrested and placed in jail, in-processed, I got an orange uniform, etc. and then was placed in general population.

Bond was $500. I had the cash on me when I was pulled over to post bond. I had to put the whole amount up because I was an out of towner.

After 12 hours I was released. this is a requirement for DUI's. I hired a lawyer and have court in a few weeks.

Now I am in NY relaxing.
 
I would not go back. I have warrants out but they will never catch me. I'm not writing them a check for free money.

Being in jail sucks. Being raped by the system and paying them for it is even worse.
 
welcome back, believe it or not, i think they are lowering the legal driving limit to .7 in NY and NJ or something. I didn't catch the whole story on news about a month ago or so.

LOL, how was FL.? That's what happens when a Yankee comes to that part of the woods.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
I am out on bail for DUI. I came in at .13 - the legal limit in FL is .08.

I didn't refuse the test because in FL, refusal gets you a one year suspension among other issues.

I was arrested and placed in jail, in-processed, I got an orange uniform, etc. and then was placed in general population.

Bond was $500. I had the cash on me when I was pulled over to post bond. I had to put the whole amount up because I was an out of towner.

After 12 hours I was released. this is a requirement for DUI's. I hired a lawyer and have court in a few weeks.

Now I am in NY relaxing.

bro, why did you hire a lawyer, you gonna fight it???
 
Dudes, Florida don't play. They will come looking for your ass. In Atlanta, you can skip and not worry about it...but Florida is another story.
 
Re: Re: I am OUT ON BAIL

bwood said:


bro, why did you hire a lawyer, you gonna fight it???


Didn't I just fucking ask that? Damn, calm down... after he gets the ice pack for his starfish, he will tell us.
 
Well, I got the lawyer because I have to go to court. If nothing else I hope that he can soften the blow a little bit.

I am expecting

probation
fine
condtional license

Don't really care too much about the fine but don't want a ot of administrative punishments.

AAP - no assrape, sorry. everyone was really mellow to the point of listless.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Well, I got the lawyer because I have to go to court. If nothing else I hope that he can soften the blow a little bit.

I am expecting

probation
fine
condtional license

Don't really care too much about the fine but don't want a ot of administrative punishments.

AAP - no assrape, sorry. everyone was really mellow to the point of listless.


You would care about the fine if you were a German in Deustchland(sp). Traffic fines are based on income. One guy got hit for $24,000 for speeding.
 
I got in a fight in Fl then went back to Boston. Six months later I got rushed by the sherriffs on a governors warrant.

THEY WILL COME GET YOU!

And you will sit on a bus all they way back.

My bail was $50,000 as an out of state person and no bondsman would touch me. The guy arraigned before me hit his grandmother in the head with a golf club and his bail was $10000.

Go to florida on vacation

Come back on probation

Next time you visit you are jailed on a violation
 
Very sorry to hear that Matt...I am certainly not a fan of drunk driving to put it mildly...I am surprised as well.
 
What sucks about here in NY is that if you're under 21 and caught with any alcohol.. even .000001, you're fucked. :(
 
sucks man, i got a dui on july 4th but being a minor helped alot. my parents got a lawyer and i got out of everything. nothing is on my record, i just had to visit some guy once and that was it. but for you, since your older, your fucked. that will really hurt you job wise depending on what you do and will never go away. i learned my lesson, hope you do
 
I can almost guarantee you wont get that hardship license very soon. I lost my license for a year and the DMV told me not to even bother trying to get one until i had served at least half my sentence. good luck though, losing your license is crippling , reduces you to a 14 year old again.
 
Try this:

Fine
Probation
License Restrictions
Community Service hours (about 40-80)
Driver's Ed classes
AA meetings


yep.... gonna suck.
 
AAP said:
Try this:

Fine
Probation
License Restrictions
Community Service hours (about 40-80)
Driver's Ed classes
AA meetings


yep.... gonna suck.

I am getting plugged into some good advice, and learning as much as I can.

As far the conditional license, FL is actually pretty good about that.

Yes it was a dumb thing. .13 is not really extremely drunk, but this may be a lesson I need to learn. Better this way than into a ditch with another car of innocent people.
 
I just love it when Big Brother steps in and takes over. Lame, but if it saves innocent lives...ah fuck it, its still lame :)
 
yup i have court mandated 3 AA's a week, real shitty, at the court house, longest hour of my life.
and their M W F @ 6pm so this kills weekend trips to anywhere, im still trying to come up with a real good excuse for PO so i can hit montreal
 
kingjohn said:


Tell your PO your headed to Montreal for the strong beer and the cheap hookers.


How much are Montreal hookers? Are they good quality? do the canadian police investigate prostitution vigoursly

its my understanding that fat hookers with bad teeth, STDs and shitty lays go for about $60 here in north america, but im sure it varies per geographic location.
 
got hit with dwi at age 19.. about a 1.5 or 1.6 like you got.

got a lawyer, real dipshit.. supposedly he reviewed my case and whatever.. first time i met him was on my day of court, he didnt realize i was a minor and it threw his whole argument off so he told me to plead guilty. So judge gave me 6 months loss of license.. andi had to go to 2 8 hour drinking classes.

insurance went up, and dmv surcharges you $1k a year for 3 years.

it sucks, but sometimes it takes a lot to learn your lesson.
 
I am surprised by this. With your money you can just pay your way out of it. Could happen to anyone that drinks. My sister's boyfriend is a police lieutenant and he has left here drunker than a skunk. Of course the law doesn't apply equally to police officers.
 
unless you are planning on driving for a living (which, though i only know 2 of your occupations, i assume is not the case), you are not going to have any employment related problems. You will be on probation, and have to meet with the PO once a month for a year. You may be drug tested so stay away from pot (and other drugs the three days prior). You will give up some of your privacy rights (po can have you searched).

Did they suspend your license on your release? Here you are suspended initially, and then about a month later on your first court appearance you can get a conditional. But for the first couple of weeks, you are SOL.

AND for those who asked why he got a lawyer. First, you have to show financial hardship to get a public defender. Second, I doubt those are trial lawyers he works with. And, if they are, I think he would want to minimize the impact this incident has on work.

And, for those of you who are suprised, you don't realize that matt was a lush for about 5 years of his life. He has been on week long benders, etc.
 
Think about it this way, if they were able to pull you over and see that you were over the legal limit, then your driving must have suggested that you were not in full control of your faculties.

You or someone else could be dead or in the hospital right now.

You're only over the legal limit if you get caught, and you'll only get caught if you're not driving correctly... so you were not in any condition to drive chief... shame on you. =)

-Warik
 
Matt,

It sucks that you had to get this, but like you said....maybe you needed to learn a lesson. :) Holler back at me, I can't seem to get ahold of you. Talk to you soon.
 
i had my hearing this morning and they showed no mercy.


10 days jail time
$2,400 fines (due w/in 2 weeks)


I have to drive w/ a breathalyzer attached to my steering wheel for 1 year ($600) as well as numerous hours of alcohol classes.
 
Really surprised/disappointed in you Matt, but I'm not really sure that there's a single one of us who at some time or another hasn't gotten behind the wheel thinking we were 100% after 2-3 beers.

Now 0.13, that's more like a six-pack plus, isn't it? Shame on you.
 
Matt,

Good idea to seek counsel. Having an attorney with a background in DUI litigation will help immensely at trail. Lawyers have become very savvy in finagling the system when it comes to DUI.

What agency/county arrested you? Be ready for the state attorney to press you to take a plea bargain. Usually, that state attorney will be aggressive and seek the maximum sentence if you fail to agree to a plea.

Make sure if available, that you purchase or request your DUI packet/video tape. Also request any information relating to when/who calibrated the DUI instrument. Find out if the officer/deputy has been adequately trained and certified to administer DUI tests. All law enforcement personnel must receive training that is currently available. Find out if the officer has any experience in DUI. All this is standard operating procedure for the state of Florida. If there is any inconsistency or diversion of proper procedure on the part of the arresting agency you may be able to walk away unscathed.

If you have any questions PM me.
 
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Ive drank and drove many times, with no incidents, but i havent drank in two years and will never drink and drive again. I was lucky, sorry to here you werent bro. Just dont do it again.-WULF
 
welcome to the club, matt.

hopefully like me you will learn your lesson and will not do it again.

if you get to choose where you do your community service at, go to a fire dept. firemen are always really cool and laid back. just dont tell them you got a d.u.i, say you got caught urinating in public or something.
 
i ran over a mailbox and kept going. got aquitted of DUI and fleeing the scene. my lawyer objected to the dispatcher call and the prosecutors case started to fall about right about then.
 
Interesting to see how respect affects responses, mine included. Had this been virtually anyone else, I would have ripped them apart. Unfortunately, as the young girl in my signature can attest, all the respect in the world is irrelevant when you begin to feel the flames lick at your face.
 
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mylife said:
i had my hearing this morning and they showed no mercy.


10 days jail time
$2,400 fines (due w/in 2 weeks)


I have to drive w/ a breathalyzer attached to my steering wheel for 1 year ($600) as well as numerous hours of alcohol classes.

good god, was this the first offence? ! ?
 
All I can say is *Slap upside the head* WTF were you thinking!?
 
MR.? said:
Good idea to seek counsel. Having an attorney with a background in DUI litigation will help immensely at trail. Lawyers have become very savvy in finagling the system when it comes to DUI.

You must be an attorney to say something like that.

_____

I got a DUI because some asshole ran a stop light and hit my car. Police officers didn't even suspect me of drinking until they found an empty cup under the car that smelled like alcohol.

I got a lawyer, paid him over $1000 and to make a long story short, it didn't do jack shit to help me. The judge pretty much rolled his eyes the whole trial then said "guilty to the fullest".

I'm glad it happened because I don't drink-n-drive anymore (or drink much at all for that matter) however I'm pissed that I WASTED money on an attorney.
 
I got nailed myself a long time ago. Here's what it boiled down to :

Court costs - $250

Lawyer fees - $250

High Risk Insurance coverage for 3 years - can't remember $$$ amount, but it ain't cheap!!!

3 days mandatory - work house (jail) or DUI school...(my choice)
which was done on a weekend.

Car was towed - $75 to get car back.

License suspended for 6 months, BUT was given driving privilages for work.

That was a first time offense, btw.

Good Luck man! Hope everything works out for you.
 
I have a friend that got busted for DUI after blowing a .001 and he wasn't a minor either. Spent a night in jail and $500 on a lawyer to get the charges dropped.
 
Well, thanks for the responses. Those of you who said "shame on me" fair enough.

I really don't see why someone wouldn't get a lawyer - as far as I know, you never go to court without one.

As far as work impact, this shouldn't have any lasting problems. I happened to have this week off anyway, so that was fortunate.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
I really don't see why someone wouldn't get a lawyer - as far as I know, you never go to court without one.

Because you can get a court-appointed attorney for nothing, or you can retain one on your own and pay $1000 & up.

Each outcome will be the same 9 out of 10 times.

fyi, the only people I've seen get out of or reduced a DUI were people that had daddys that "knew" people high up in politics.
 
Congrats. Nothing more precious than your freedom, I learnt that the hard way to.
 
alien amp pharm said:


Because you can get a court-appointed attorney for nothing, or you can retain one on your own and pay $1000 & up.

Each outcome will be the same 9 out of 10 times.

fyi, the only people I've seen get out of or reduced a DUI were people that had daddys that "knew" people high up in politics.

ever been arrested? judges here will not give you a public defender UNLESS you can prove you cannot pay for your own.
 
alien amp pharm said:


Because you can get a court-appointed attorney for nothing, or you can retain one on your own and pay $1000 & up.

Each outcome will be the same 9 out of 10 times.

fyi, the only people I've seen get out of or reduced a DUI were people that had daddys that "knew" people high up in politics.

As asshole-ish as this sounds, the cost of all of this is not really an issue. I have the money.

I do know some people very high up in politics. However, I think they are above the "help me with a DUI" level. :(

This is going to be interesting, that's for sure.
 
You are doing the right thing. Get a good lawyer and let them go to bat for you. I have seen a number of DUI's thrown out due to a variety of technicalities.
 
Originally posted by MattTheSkywalker
Yes it was a dumb thing. .13 is not really extremely drunk, but this may be a lesson I need to learn. Better this way than into a ditch with another car of innocent people.

Not that you care Matt, but the respect went up a notch after
reading this comment.
Anyone that drinks probably can remember driving after drinking.

I respect the mindset of paying your dues for something you did wrong. Instead of seeing if you can get away with it..

A lawyer will simply ensure you pay only what you should for this
infraction..

Good luck, and put a bookmark for this day in your mental DB
 
Excuse me if I'm somewhat biased here, but this is what I've witnessed personally.......

I got arrested because somebody hit me. I passed every test except the "eye twitch" part because I had been drinking. They debated wether or not to even take me in. Although I did fail the breath-alyser according to state law, I wasn't 'fall down drunk'.

The cop lied on the stand, the judge acted like it was a waste of his time to even be in the courtroom. Bottom line:I paid $$$ for nothing concerning the attorney.

One friend of mine got out of a DUI after he ran into the back of a police car at a red light. The guy was messed up on pills & beer. He couldn't even speak correctly. Bottom line: Everything got dropped because his dad "knew" somebody high up.

Another friend has been out of 4 DIFFERENT DUI's all because his dad use to be a high local politician.

So yes, shit like this pisses me off.
If money isn't a problem, then yes I'd hire a good lawyer too. Otherwise get a Public Defender or a cheaper one because around here it's near impossible to beat a DUI without some political pull.
 
Looks like politicians get their friends DUI's dropped. Scumbags. What kind of fucking joke is that anyways. Call the judge and have it dropped? Makes the judges an accomplice to the crime.
 
This is after the fact, but for anyone who gets asked to take an alcohol test, demand a blood alcohol test, not a breath test. One, it is more accurate, and two, they will have to take you to the station to perform this test, which allows your blood levels to drop further.
 
Wodin: "Up Outta there!"

Matt: "Awwww shit! You done fucked up now... You done put 2 of America's most wanted in the same muthafuckin place at the same muthafuckin time!! Y'all niggas about to feel this! Break out the champagne glasses and muthafuckin condoms, and have one on us!"
 
in court, demand the video of the breathalyzing, that fucks them up a lot. They either dont have the tape, dont bother to send it or didnt tape it.
 
Matt,

Sorry to hear this.

I remember a couple years ago, when I used to take G (GHB) every weekend. One night I was at the strip club, fairly high, just downed another cap, and my buddy got kicked out. We left, got into the car, long story short, the G got stronger and I stayed behind the wheel much longer than I should have.

I almost ran some guy off the road because I couldnt stay awake. Thankfully I was only going 40 kmh on a country road.

Hope u learn your lesson man.
 
Warik said:
Think about it this way, if they were able to pull you over and see that you were over the legal limit, then your driving must have suggested that you were not in full control of your faculties.

You or someone else could be dead or in the hospital right now.

You're only over the legal limit if you get caught, and you'll only get caught if you're not driving correctly... so you were not in any condition to drive chief... shame on you. =)

-Warik

This is not corrrect.

Anyway, Matt, it sucks that you got a DUI. They're a bitch. With your $$$ and a lawyer, you'll probably fair better than most- but I'm sure you know that.

MattTheSkywalker said:
casavant

...it is ironic for you to be a recreational drugs spokesperson when you can't manage a rec drug like alcohol without getting arrested.

:elephant: :elephant: :elephant:
 
I had a .27 here in Ny under age, stupid but I was a different person then than now. I ended up paying a $350 fine and had a conditional for 1 year. If you keep a list of aa meeting in your car most of the time you can just say your on your way to a aa meeting, nice way around the conditional. Most courts want your money so hopefully it will just be a heafty fine. Everyone told me I was going to be real screwed but it didn't turn out that way, you won't know till you go there. My lawyer had also only cost $350.
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
Casavant,

good use of the elephants.
 
alien amp pharm said:


Because you can get a court-appointed attorney for nothing, or you can retain one on your own and pay $1000 & up.



yeah but if you get the right attourney, that knows the prosecuting attourney or the judge, then you're home free, or at least you can get a lesser charge. Anyway that's how it used to be like 5 years ago.

Depending on the state, it's not always the case. My buddy got an DWI in arizona, and in that state they do NOT fuck around. You do jail time no matter what.
 
The Nature Boy said:



Depending on the state, it's not always the case. My buddy got an DWI in arizona, and in that state they do NOT fuck around. You do jail time no matter what.


sure don't. 10 days + a grip in fines for me.
 
Just fyi where I live, one year loss of license for refusal to blow is bullshit. While it is technically the law, there are diversion programs avaiable for first time offenders. Also, first time offense is going to be a slap on the wrist as everyone knows. 1-2 years of probation, 2 year s.i.s., no high risk insurance, no loss of license.

In fact, if it is a first time offense and you know that you have been drinking and would fail the breathalyzer, it is best to NOT take it. The reason- if you fail a breathalyzer, there is an automatic 90 day suspension of the license, after 30 days you can file for a hardship license to drive to work. That is set in stone, nothing an attorney can do.

However, if you don't blow, they threaten a one year suspension. However, first time offenders can get a diversion program. Basically your attorney requires a hearing in regards to the refusal to blow and it is then the responsibility of the state, department of revenue actually, to prove three things - 1. they had valid cause to pull you over 2. they had reasonable suspicion to think you were intoxicated/under the influence and 3. you did in fact refuse to blow.
So, a seperate court case would be set for the refusal to blow and your attorney would get an injunction to prevent the suspension of license. In the mean time, you get the dwi taken care of in court, satop, probation, fines, s.i.s.. Since there technically hasn't been a conviction on your record for dwi the case for refusal to blow will be dropped/taken care of and the dor will not present evidence against you. Anyway, that's how it works around here.
 
Matt,

I don't think you need me to tell you that you're doing the right. You should get a lawyer for anything other than minor traffic violations. Our legal system has no place for the common man. They don't let you speak, and they certainly don't use procedures that are easily understood.

In court, our crimes mean little, it's really more about the color of our skin and the hourly rate of our attorney. I have no doubt that there is an attorney in your area that can get you off scott-free for the right price.

I have very few rules, but one rule that i almost learned the hard way - never go into court alone.
 
Matt-

Sorry to hear about the DUI. Good luck, hope it blows over. Very smart move on the lawyer, it never pays to go cheap on legal advice, cuz if you get an asshole judge you can get reemed.

Take a cab next time bro..
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Well, I got the lawyer because I have to go to court. If nothing else I hope that he can soften the blow a little bit.

I am expecting

probation
fine
condtional license

AAP - no assrape, sorry. everyone was really mellow to the point of listless.



Well.....I paid out $1500 in legal fees for an OUI, received a $700 fine plus 10% court fees, 45 day license suspension, and my insurance jumped about $250 per year.

Of course, I was 22 at the time and insurance is a bitch for single guys under 25.

Hey hound...I agree with you except for one thing. You can be legally drunk and not really know you are. I had a .09 after a few drinks at dinner, was pulled over for a burnt out license plate bulb, smelled like beer, and blew a .09 breathalizer. Not everyone intentionally drinks and drives....:rolleyes:
 
I thought you were more mature than to get behind the wheel of a car drunk. Shame on you.
 
spongebob said:
matt do you have a drinking problem? thats just what i sense from what little ive read here.

hey matt i wasnt trying to be an asshole i was just curious if you thought you had a drinking problem. when you said, "i needed this to learn a lesson" it sounds like you may be doing this often thats all.
 
spongebob said:


hey matt i wasnt trying to be an asshole i was just curious if you thought you had a drinking problem. when you said, "i needed this to learn a lesson" it sounds like you may be doing this often thats all.

SB

No prob bro. I have done a lot of stupid shit and most of it was alcohol related. Better to get a DUI and not drink and drive again than to hit a car full of people at 85 miles per hour.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


SB

No prob bro. I have done a lot of stupid shit and most of it was alcohol related. Better to get a DUI and not drink and drive again than to hit a car full of people at 85 miles per hour.

i hear ya, i learned my lesson a few yrs ago. unfortunately it didnt stick but i never have had any more trouble. now days i dont do it cause the penalties are just to high.
 
Would this be your first time getting caught for drinking and driving or any other alcohol related convictions to speak of?
 
I'm not going to lecture you brotha... but... DUI is not something I like seeing... You are a big boy, you can handle yourself though.

C-ditty
 
One of the main reasons I don't drink much here in the US.

Absolutely no chance of driving under the influence.

In countries like Romania and Turkey etc... nobody really gives a damn. Frankly, you could be carreening left and right down the highway at 100mph and nobody would stop you. But in the UK and the US, they enforce DUI with a vengeance.

Anyways, good luck Matt. Hope it goes well.

Fonz
 
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