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By the amount of people out there that either no NOTHING about pct or chose not to use it ever......how do they ever recover???? Is this crazy?

SOme Ive talked to used only natty PCTs...such as tribulus....is this effective?
 
Tribulus effective? Not nearly as profound as clomid or nolvadex for restoring the HPTA. Always wanted to try Tribex-500 from BioTest, though--for shits and giggles.

Prohormones get pulled Jan. 20. Mark your calendars if you care, people.

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JKurz1 said:
By the amount of people out there that either no NOTHING about pct or chose not to use it ever......how do they ever recover???? Is this crazy?

SOme Ive talked to used only natty PCTs...such as tribulus....is this effective?
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I've heard both sides and i guess it's up to the individual. I know quite a few people who never use PCT unless they have been on Deca. Tribulus does help increase LH production, so i guess it would be better to use it than nothing. I've been including Tribulus fuel extreme during my last 3 PCT sessions. It does seem to help me recover faster than usual. The length and dosages used also have a lot of bearing on whether or not PCT is mandatory.
 
very surprised...........you really think you could get away with a little nolva and some tribulus?
 
JKurz1 said:
very surprised...........you really think you could get away with a little nolva and some tribulus?
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On a lighter cycle, say under 400gr a week of test for less than 10 weeks...probably so. Recovery might take a week or so longer, but then again...maybe not?
 
Tongkat Ali extract and nothing else! Yes, fuck clomid.

There is this guy at my gym, I havent seen him in like 2 months maybe. Well last night he came into the gym, and I swear he looks like he lost 20lbs. Obviously doesnt know what he's doing, or he was holding too much water. Cant be that much water so I'm leaning to he doesnt know what he's doing.
 
I have done maybe 10 cycles and only done PCT once, but I've never had a problem keeping size. That was mostly out of ignorance though. I will be doing it from now on.
 
Dial_tone said:
I have done maybe 10 cycles and only done PCT once, but I've never had a problem keeping size. That was mostly out of ignorance though. I will be doing it from now on.
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DT you should post up some pictures, I've been waiting for months!
 
10-20 years ago PCT was no where near as common. I've done a number of cycles with no issues retaining size or recovering. So have many others. It will generally return on it's own over time (all that being said, I tend to favor shorter cycles with lower dosages and am very good at adjusting volume and intensity to keep my gains). That being said, if you have the option to do it, there is no reason not to and many reasons to do it.
 
Your training and diet is more important post-cycle, imo. Most people stop training completely or stop eating, or both. And then they wonder why they lost all of their gains
 
......folks need to realize that MOST of the fat gain postcysle comes form the dumbing down of the natural Thyroid production
 
I always use HCG, Clomid. I keep Nolva on hand... and I use dostines with tren and deca.
I never lose any strength! I generally don't lose more than 4 to 6 lbs after all is said and done either... Judging by the way my abs look.. it was water loss too!
PCT for ever for me!
 
I'll stick with HCG / Nolva for PCT but there's no harm in adding extra supps to aid recovery.

BTW: Trib also increases estradiol so taking an aromatase inhibitor should significantly enhance its effectiveness. Also if you use trib be sure to get a good extract with a high percentage of steroidal saponins (protodioscin).
 
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