Huck gave me a great idea !

[VictorBR]

I was reading " the best of elite fitness " topics and I saw his cutting cycle , which was centered around A2/estrogen suppression.

The fact that I am sitting at 10-12 % bodyfat and I still have estrogen related fat pisses me off a LOT . I have unproportional amounts of FAT on my love handles , lower abs , and chest ( outer and lower and nipples , it is funny because the upper and inner are ripped lol ) . I am pretty much LEAN everywhere else but those places .

So, I am pretty much sure I have natural high levels of estrogen on my body , I don't need a blood test to see this . it is pretty obvious . I have killed my gyno with nolva a 6 months ago and now it is slowly returning ( and my last cycle was 2001 so .... ) , I don't have a thin skin ( I would look way more ripped with a thin skin , to not have a thin skin means that you have high estrogen levels- soft skin is a woman characteristic ) , and all that fat on those places even looking at the fact that I am at 10-12 % bodyfat .I was thinking it could also be low TEST . But It is NOT .

Since I spank the monkey 2-4 times EVERY DAY and in the weekends I can bang my g/f that has been with me for 3 years , 6 times a day . So , my natural test should be pretty high ... So I think I was blessed with high test levels BUT it had to come with a negative and the negative is that I have natural high estrogen levels , so high test , but ALSO high estrogen , OH WELL , we can't be perfect after all .

So , before starting my monster cycle , I thought I would atack the problem .

Duration - 4-6 weeks

Drugs that I will use :

- Aromasin ( huck used arimidex but aromasin should be even better )
- Oxandrolone .
- Yohimburn ES
- T- rex
- Levorex
- Proviron

The oxandrolone is there for inumerous reason , like anti - anticatabolic agent and other unique properties that it has ... The aromasin is there for obvious reasons . YES , T-rex and levorex ? what can I say ? simply amazing shit . And the proviron ? Well , I would like to ask you guys ? Is the proviron a good idea ? I can get it so easy and so cheap that I thought : " oh well why not throw it in there just to help with the hardening "

I am hoping to lose 5-10 lbs of PURE ESTROGENIC UGLY AND STUPID FAT, since I don't EVEN have much more fat left on my body , it should come mostly from those estrogenic-rich fat areas .

Your thoughts ?


Victor

 

[bbkingpinn]

Get some hGH, homey.

 

[VictorBR]

I was thinking in using some HGH also , but it is kinda expensive ...I am gonna save that for my big cycle which I will probably start after this one ....


Victor

 

[TheRide]

Bump

 

[Slyder190]

Proviron will shut you down, in case you didn't know.

 

[KOArtist]

sounds like a plan, keep us updated on how it works for u

 

[bicepts101]

sounds good and the hgh is a good suggestion

 

[VictorBR]

thanks guy , I will keep you all updated for sure

btw- Will proviron for 4 weeks shut me down ??!

are you sure ?


Victor

 

[VictorBR]

bump for more opinions


Victor

 

[wootoom]

looks solid bro

 

[bicepts101]

i wouldnt rely on proviron for not shutting u down..so if you're going pct with it..just forget about it

midcycle its garenteed libido and a small amount of estrogen supression

 

[VictorBR]

yeah I was thinking in dumping the proviron .... and using winny instead of va because it is waaay cheaper


Victor

 

[fugetaboutit]

winny will shut you down too, no?

 

[bbkingpinn]

You also might want to try lipo some day if the fat is that stubborn.

 

[Apexx]

Stick with the var bro. If you don't plan on running pct after this I would drop
the proviron, you shouldn't need it anyway.

 

[Smokescreen]

Victor...honestly think its your diet bro. Didn't you once say that you ate or still McDonalds and shit like that?

 

[Stryker1992]

Victor...honestly think its your diet bro. Didn't you once say that you ate or still McDonalds and shit like that?

hahaha!

 

[Smokescreen]

Hey...I'm not making fun of good ol' Vic here. I'm seriously trying to help him out. I understand that taking this and that added with this and more of that, will help you acheive your goals. But something as a fuckup in diet can actually hinder all your goals.

 

[wellbilt]

anavar will shut you down also

 

[VictorBR]

Victor...honestly think its your diet bro. Didn't you once say that you ate or still McDonalds and shit like that?

No it is not my diet , I eat junk food ONCE every 10-15 days . Just to shock my metabolism I eat a high calorie meal once in a while ...if I didn't know how to diet I would not be able to go from 28 % bodyfat to 10 % bodyfat like I did ...oh and without any gear .


Victor

 

[VictorBR]

btw- I dropped the var .

the new plan :

HGH
Levorex
T-rex
Yohimburn
Aromasin
Nolva

Vit C + BCAA + 300 g protein per day to prevent muscle catabolism

I am gonna save my virgin receptors for my big cycle which should begin after this 4-6 week treatment , so no gear for now .


Victor

 

[glock40_1979]

Is there anyway someone could copy and paste the original by Huck. If not could someone be so nice to send me a copy of it at [email protected] . I to have the same problem getting lean everywhere but lower chest and stomach. It would be greatly appreciated thanks.

 

[VictorBR]

I would gladly do it for you but I am not sure if it is allowed , mods ?


Victor

 

[glock40_1979]

Victor could you at least let me know the mg huck used and the mg your going to use for the anti estrogens. Im going to try the same thing. What do you think about running clen,t3,anti-estrogens,and a small amount of something to keep from burning muscle on the t3.

 

[VictorBR]

I will use 12.5 mg EOD of aromasin . Each anti - estrogen has its own dose ...Huck was using liquidex at 1 mg ED if I remember correctly ,

I don't like T3 , so I would skip .

if you are using T-rex and levorex you don't need clen , you can use clen instead of t-rex but not both at the same time ...

The drugs that I recommend for maintaining muscle mass are winstroll , oxandrolone and primobolan ( which Huck used ) .


Victor

 

[glock40_1979]

Man I just erased half of a page I just wrote. IIll start over but shorter. My plan looks like liquidex,clen,t3,nolvadex if you think its a good idea,Eq i am currently running 300mgs as a cruise to maintain. I seen where you were going to run nolva thats why i added it. I use to be bulked up to 275 and now have dieted to 227. I have started my ckd back up and will not begin all these supps for 3 weeks. So keep me updated on how yours is going. By the way im going to use hell fire labs for most of my stuff.Let me know on the nolvadex if your going to use it.