Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Is it possible that after a cycle that your body is never fully recovered? I think i did a couple of Tren for 8 to 12 weeks four years ago and 3 years ago respectively. Since then, my morning hardons is weak and now it's only like once up to three times a week. And i am only 29. I tried just doing nolva and clomid on its own right now and see if it makes any difference but nothing so far... maybe hcg? any input?
HPTA suppression/shutdown
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enacer420nj
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^bump the blood work...when was the last time you cycled?
gjohnson5
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I'm gonna go on a limb and say if you want to try Myogenx without going to the doctor , it's probably worth a shot. Njmuscleguy tends to shutdown pretty hard from cycles and he PM'd me telling me Myogenx was helping his PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - .
He also posted on the last page of his thread that Myogenx did help him recover as much as he was going to...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/my-dermacrine-experience-541717-10.html
I don't see the harm in trying it just to check. Even HCG doesn't help everyone...
He also posted on the last page of his thread that Myogenx did help him recover as much as he was going to...
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/my-dermacrine-experience-541717-10.html
I don't see the harm in trying it just to check. Even HCG doesn't help everyone...
Stryker1992
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gjohnson5 said:
Isn't this guy saying he has not used any steroids in 3 years?
Stryker1992 said:
He would likely benefit from sups like Myogenx or Derma Sustain…
Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and Clomid are both known to lower sex drive in most men, so this is probably not the best approach in fixing his low libido.
-Pp
gjohnson5
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I think he tends to shutdown hard when he does (which is the reason for the abscense from AAS usage). There is probably something genetically specific about him and nandrolone use for his shutdowns. But yes I don't think he is a normal steroid user because of his experience.
And as PP said , check out Dermacrine Sustain. The stack of Myogenx and Dermacrine Sustain could have been what put him over th edge.
And as PP said , check out Dermacrine Sustain. The stack of Myogenx and Dermacrine Sustain could have been what put him over th edge.
Stryker1992 said:
Stryker1992
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gjohnson5 said:
Okay guys, I hear you both on this BUT the dude said he has been clean for 3 YEARS and it has been a problem since. It sounds like something is majorly fucked up?????????????
I mean suppresed sex drive for 3 years post cycle does not seem very likely based on any scientific research?????????
lostinfitness
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AFter doing pct correctly your body should fully recover, no? Also, even without pct, after 3 years your body would naturally correct wouldn't it?
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gjohnson5
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Ooh , you mean the OP...
You mean that people's htpa rebounds after 4 weeks or so??? Hopefully you aren't assuming that true for everyone...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...med.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus
Reversible hypogonadism and azoospermia as a result of anabolic-androgenic steroid use in a bodybuilder with personality disorder. A case report.
Boyadjiev NP, Georgieva KN, Massaldjieva RI, Gueorguiev SI.
Faculty of Medicine, Department of Physiology, Plovdiv, Bulgaria. [email protected]
We report a case of reversible hypogonadism and azoospermia resulting from anabolic-androgenic steroid abuse in a body-builder with primary personality disorder. A keen body builder, a 20-year-old man, developed acute aggressive and destructive behavior after 10-month use of Bionabol (mean total dose of 1,120 mg per month), and Retabolil (mean total dose of 150 mg per month). He was found to meet the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders-IV ed. (DSM-IV) criteria for Borderline personality disorder. On admission to the hospital the clinical profile of the patient showed extremely low levels of serum testosterone. Values increased to normal levels 10 months after withdrawal of steroids. The semen was azoospermic at the beginning of the study period, oligospermic five months later, and reached 20 x 10(6) sperm per mL ten months after the steroid discontinuation. Anabolic steroids can greatly affect the male pituitary-gonadal axis. A hypogonadal state, characterized by decreased serum testosterone and impaired spermatogenesis, was induced in the patient. This condition was reversible after the steroid withdrawal, but the process took more than ten months. His personal imbalance could be considered a personality trait rather than a result of the anabolic-androgenic steroid use. There were probably dispositional personality characteristics that contributed to anabolic steroid abuse in our patient. The hypogonadal changes which occurred after his long-term steroid abuse were for the most part reversible.
You mean that people's htpa rebounds after 4 weeks or so??? Hopefully you aren't assuming that true for everyone...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...med.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus
Reversible hypogonadism and azoospermia as a result of anabolic-androgenic steroid use in a bodybuilder with personality disorder. A case report.
Boyadjiev NP, Georgieva KN, Massaldjieva RI, Gueorguiev SI.
Faculty of Medicine, Department of Physiology, Plovdiv, Bulgaria. [email protected]
We report a case of reversible hypogonadism and azoospermia resulting from anabolic-androgenic steroid abuse in a body-builder with primary personality disorder. A keen body builder, a 20-year-old man, developed acute aggressive and destructive behavior after 10-month use of Bionabol (mean total dose of 1,120 mg per month), and Retabolil (mean total dose of 150 mg per month). He was found to meet the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders-IV ed. (DSM-IV) criteria for Borderline personality disorder. On admission to the hospital the clinical profile of the patient showed extremely low levels of serum testosterone. Values increased to normal levels 10 months after withdrawal of steroids. The semen was azoospermic at the beginning of the study period, oligospermic five months later, and reached 20 x 10(6) sperm per mL ten months after the steroid discontinuation. Anabolic steroids can greatly affect the male pituitary-gonadal axis. A hypogonadal state, characterized by decreased serum testosterone and impaired spermatogenesis, was induced in the patient. This condition was reversible after the steroid withdrawal, but the process took more than ten months. His personal imbalance could be considered a personality trait rather than a result of the anabolic-androgenic steroid use. There were probably dispositional personality characteristics that contributed to anabolic steroid abuse in our patient. The hypogonadal changes which occurred after his long-term steroid abuse were for the most part reversible.
Stryker1992 said:
Stryker1992
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No bro, i am not assuming that at all. I figure a few months for recovery.But 3 years......
