How's this for a first cycle?

[Demon Dan]

Naposim & Deca - 7shots total
Wk1 20mg/day (10x2) & 200mg / 6days
Wk2 30mg/day (10x3) & 200mg / 6days
Wk3 45mg/day (15x3) & 200mg / 6days
Wk4 45mg/day (15x3) & 200mg / 6days
Wk5 45mg/day (15x3) & 200mg / 6days
Wk6 30 >> 20mg / day & 200mg / 6days
Wk7
Wk8
Wk9 Clomid 300mg / day for 1 days
then Clomid 100mg / day for 10 days
then Clomid 50mg / day for 10 days

I'm 185lbs, 5'8". Been training and eating properly for 2yrs. Looking to gain size.

Questions...
1) Anything you would add/change to improve the stack. Most things are available.
2) I've heard and read conflicting advice on the anti-estrogen / anti-catabolic side of things. Do I have the Clomid amount and timing right - and should there be anything else to keep the gains and get the body back where it should be?

Thanks guys! Great board and HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

 

[primobone]

run the naps 30mg for 4 weeks. maybe up the deca to 300mg. being that this is your first cycle u should see good gains. have winny for prog gyno as well. and an anti e for estrogen gyno from the dbol. good luck

 

[basskiller]

add test... do a search on deca

 

[Demon Dan]

Ok - thanks for the replies. Please understand that this is really difficult for a novice. There is probably too much information out there and a lot of it seems to conflict - I've seen noivces state this before. Believe me - I've read and read.... and searched and searched.

I guess that when you say search for Deca you mean that it should be stacked with some form of test? Well the anabolic review site (which is recommended to novices on this board) says that test is to be avoided on a first cycle - too hardcore (!).

Or maybe you meant that I should run the Deca for, say, 10 weeks? The guys I speak to in my gym tell me that extended use of one substance is old-school. If I want to run the cycle longer I should stick with 6-8 shots of Deca and then change to something else.

I'm torn between the school of thought that says "this is your first cycle - no need to go mad" and the other which says "you're gonna get the best gains from the first cycle so make the most of it".

Maybe I should have asked the question "given no restrictions on availability what would be your ideal first cycle if you could go back and do it again?"

Sorry I'm rambling - look forward to hearing your comments though.

 

[basskiller]

I would like to refer you to a few threads But I really don't have the time right now... Try searching for limp dick or deca dick.

Test is running through your body right now.

My first cycle was as follows
test depot the first 2 weeks at a gram a week (Thats alot of test)
followed by 500 to 600mgs of test cyp. for the next 8 weeks.
Eq at 400mgs wks 1 thru 10
d-bol started at 35mgs ed at wk 1 by the time week 5 hit I was doing 60mgs/ed
And last but not least weeks 6 thru 10 winny at 50mg ed

I'm not telling you to do any of my doses but as for the test being too hard, I wouldn't worry the least bit!
Even if it skirts the line of a therapeutic dose at lets say 200 mgs a week!

This is a small price to pay to keep your pecker working.

Or don't use it, cause you might be fine with out the test.
Best of luck eitherway
bass

 

[Never Give UP]

Im going to share a little secret with you bro, this would be a virgin cycle in which you would gain 20-30 "solid" pounds and would not suppress the testicular axis. Here it is, my cycle tried and true;

Week Primo(Spanish) Anavar T3
1 150mg/wk 40mg/day 50mcg/day
2 100mg/wk 30mg/day 50mcg/day
3 100mg/wk 30mg/day 50mcg/day
4 100mg/wk 20mg/day 50mcg/day
5 100mg/wk 20mg/day 25mcg/day
6 100mg/wk 10mg/day ---------------

You can throw in some clen for 2days on and 4off. This is the safest cycle ever that will give you a minimum of a 20 pound gain. No need for clomid or nolva. T3 will give you some extra protein synthesis. Gains will be as permanent as natural gains. If you want more imput contact me(PM) or email me @ [email protected].

Train Furious;
PAUL

 

[manny78]

Bro Deca 300 mg for 10 weeks, Add some test (Sustanon 500 mg), Dbols 30 mg ED...

 

[Demon Dan]

Thanks for the replies again.... More questions though....

Which test would you add to the cycle? I was thinking of Test Enanthate.

Where would you add it? Exactly the same as the Deca - or continue from where the Deca ends?

If you're doing Deca and Test together can you inject same time or is it better to space them out by a day or so?

 

[Never Give UP]

Welcome

Thanks for the replies again.... More questions though....

Which test would you add to the cycle? I was thinking of Test Enanthate.

Where would you add it? Exactly the same as the Deca - or continue from where the Deca ends?

If you're doing Deca and Test together can you inject same time or is it better to space them out by a day or so?

Enanthate would do but I would go with Cyp. I would add it @ the beginning of the deca. Also there is a ratio of test to deca. Do a search on that so you know how much test and deca you should use.
Take Care

 

[macho21]

Bro Deca 300 mg for 10 weeks, Add some test (Sustanon 500 mg), Dbols 30 mg ED...

Exactly what I was thinking.