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askari

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I've got some injectable QV winny, 50mg/ml.

I'm ready to start using it.

What gauge and length needle should I use?

I want to do spot injections, right? Are these injections IM or subQ? How should I pick my injection spots?

Maybe there's a winny faq somewhere?

Thanks in advance.
 
askari said:
I've got some injectable QV winny, 50mg/ml.

I'm ready to start using it.

What gauge and length needle should I use?

I want to do spot injections, right? Are these injections IM or subQ? How should I pick my injection spots?

Maybe there's a winny faq somewhere?

Thanks in advance.
Not trying to flame you bro, but you already bought the winny without knowing if you even inject it into your muscles or not....which yes, you do do it IM. You need to go to and do a lot of research (which means reading b4 asking) before you hurt yourself due to lack of knowledge. You stated you are ready to start using it but clearly you are not. Don't do damage to yourself bud.
 
Ulter said:
Use a 23 gauge 1 inch and shoot it IM only, at the site of your choice. I suggest your glute since you don't know what you're doing.

LOL@Ulter
 
C'mon guys, we were all newbies once. Take it easy on the guy. Its stuff like this that makes people afraid to ask questions, so they end up following some bad advice that they heard from some other newbie at their local gym that tells them "somebody told me to use it like this...." and they screw themselves up. I was lucky and got to learn from some very experienced friends of mine, some of which competed. They got their knowledge from personal experience and from all the old steroid manuals. Not everybody has this luxury. When I used to work at a gym I'd hear countless conversations from newbies talking about gear and how they were using it, you wouldn't believe how fuckin stupid and dangerous they were about their use. The worst part of it was that they'd try to give advice to other people just starting out. Most of the time I'd just role my eyes and laugh, but if I thought the person being given bad advice was cool, I'd pull him aside and tell him the truth, then tell him how to research more.
 
androjunkie said:
C'mon guys, we were all newbies once. Take it easy on the guy. Its stuff like this that makes people afraid to ask questions, so they end up following some bad advice that they heard from some other newbie at their local gym that tells them "somebody told me to use it like this...." and they screw themselves up. I was lucky and got to learn from some very experienced friends of mine, some of which competed. They got their knowledge from personal experience and from all the old steroid manuals. Not everybody has this luxury. When I used to work at a gym I'd hear countless conversations from newbies talking about gear and how they were using it, you wouldn't believe how fuckin stupid and dangerous they were about their use. The worst part of it was that they'd try to give advice to other people just starting out. Most of the time I'd just role my eyes and laugh, but if I thought the person being given bad advice was cool, I'd pull him aside and tell him the truth, then tell him how to research more.

I agree with you andro....we all are newbies at some point..and yes we all should do the research as well...but i think that the vets get frustrated with someone that clearly hasnt done any research at all...its like being in class and the kid next to you asks you whats the answer for a question when they havent opened the book...but that clearly is on a smaller scale when comparing it to injecting something....
 
21-23 gauge needle, IM in such areas as the glute or quad. check out spotinjections dot com so you don't mess up. also make sure you aspirate your needle (after pulling the fluid in turn upside down so needle is up and the air bubbles go to the top, flick a couple of times with ur fingers then slowly squeeze the needle so the air goes out) before injecting.
 
askari said:
I've got some injectable QV winny, 50mg/ml.

I'm ready to start using it.

What gauge and length needle should I use?

I want to do spot injections, right? Are these injections IM or subQ? How should I pick my injection spots?

Maybe there's a winny faq somewhere?

Thanks in advance.

bro how old are you? whats your stats? whats your training history like? what do you know about winny? what do you want to accomplish....
 
tommy2tone said:
21-23 gauge needle, IM in such areas as the glute or quad. check out spotinjections dot com so you don't mess up. also make sure you aspirate your needle (after pulling the fluid in turn upside down so needle is up and the air bubbles go to the top, flick a couple of times with ur fingers then slowly squeeze the needle so the air goes out) before injecting.

That's not aspirating bro. That's just making sure all the air's out. Aspirating is when you put the needle into the muscle and then you pull back to make sure that you are not in a vein. Air bubbles will emerge. Now it's safe to inject. If you see blood, pull out, change the needle and go in a different spot.
 
Thanks for the constructive responses.

swordfish151 said:
bro how old are you? whats your stats? whats your training history like? what do you know about winny? what do you want to accomplish....

I'm 43, 5'7, 205 11% bf. I'm 10 days into my third cycle. I've been training seriously since 1999, getting up to about 185 naturally. I did my first cycle a year ago and my second cycle last summer. I've also overlapped Serostim around the cycles. I was on Serostim for about 8 months total in 2004, and I've been on all this year so far.

I'm adding winny into this cycle so I can get more cut.

I was confused about spot injecting. I've read about people doing that with winny, but honestly, it seems a bit over my head, and of questionable value. One friend of mine suggests drinking the injectable winny, because the injections are daily and painful.
 
Makavelli said:
That's not aspirating bro. That's just making sure all the air's out. Aspirating is when you put the needle into the muscle and then you pull back to make sure that you are not in a vein. Air bubbles will emerge. Now it's safe to inject. If you see blood, pull out, change the needle and go in a different spot.

When I learned to inject, I learned to keep that air bubble in the syringe, and push it in behind the oil. I think the purpose is to push the oil in deeper. Do any of you do that?

And even though I'm a newbie, I have always aspirated. The reading I did and the people I spoke to make it clear how important that is.
 
askari said:
When I learned to inject, I learned to keep that air bubble in the syringe, and push it in behind the oil. I think the purpose is to push the oil in deeper. Do any of you do that?

And even though I'm a newbie, I have always aspirated. The reading I did and the people I spoke to make it clear how important that is.

I always make sure that all the air is out b4 I put it in the muscle.
 
Stacemranger said:
Use the search button. Lots of stuff on winny. He's trying to help you by not spoonfeeding the info to you.
I'm not trying to start an argument but I actually would expect to be spoonfed info. Maybe most people wouldn't see it as the right way, but I thought that the whole reason for chat forums was so that you could ask people's advice that were more experienced in whatever you were trying to find out. I see a lot of people get upset when people come on here and ask commonly asked questions, and I don't get it. Yeah, sometimes I get annoyed with hearing the same questions over and over, but then I remember that I'd probably do the same thing if I didn't know. Actually, whenever I'm trying to find info on something,(not just gear) I always get on the net and look for a chat board on the particular subject. Again, I'm not flaming, I just don't understand why I'm the only one that see's it this way.
 
swordfish151 said:
I agree with you andro....we all are newbies at some point..and yes we all should do the research as well...but i think that the vets get frustrated with someone that clearly hasnt done any research at all...its like being in class and the kid next to you asks you whats the answer for a question when they havent opened the book...but that clearly is on a smaller scale when comparing it to injecting something....


Well put and I agree. Honestly, I have asked my fair share of bumb questions in the past (as everyone has) but, you need to ahve some foundation on knowledge in AAS before even contemplating a cycle.

Would you go buy a TV not knowing anything about LCD vs PLasma vs tube? Then why would you inject something w/out researching it?
:rolleyes:
 
Makavelli said:
That's not aspirating bro. That's just making sure all the air's out. Aspirating is when you put the needle into the muscle and then you pull back to make sure that you are not in a vein. Air bubbles will emerge. Now it's safe to inject. If you see blood, pull out, change the needle and go in a different spot.


exactly...
 
swordfish151 said:
I agree with you andro....we all are newbies at some point..and yes we all should do the research as well...but i think that the vets get frustrated with someone that clearly hasnt done any research at all...its like being in class and the kid next to you asks you whats the answer for a question when they havent opened the book...but that clearly is on a smaller scale when comparing it to injecting something....
I know what you mean, but other than buying books like Anabolics 2004 and so on, isn't this the place to do the research?
 
Makavelli said:
That's not aspirating bro. That's just making sure all the air's out. Aspirating is when you put the needle into the muscle and then you pull back to make sure that you are not in a vein. Air bubbles will emerge. Now it's safe to inject. If you see blood, pull out, change the needle and go in a different spot.

Makavelli thanks for correcting my termonlogy... i posted quick and did not clearly convey exactly what i wanted but aspirating can also mean to remove (liquids or gases) by means of a suction device
 
tommy2tone said:
Makavelli thanks for correcting my termonlogy... i posted quick and did not clearly convey exactly what i wanted but aspirating can also mean to remove (liquids or gases) by means of a suction device

Cool. I just didn't want someone to have the wrong info on the subject. From what I hear injecting air into a vein isn't very healthy... :worried:
 
androjunkie said:
I know what you mean, but other than buying books like Anabolics 2004 and so on, isn't this the place to do the research?

yes it is andro....i think that what the vets want is for them to "look" it up...i mean yeah its easy to aske a question..but you wont believe what you can find when you research it..especially alot of contridicting points..thats when you should ask..when you have an idea and your confused...but either way i believe your right and the vets as well..
 
askari said:
When I learned to inject, I learned to keep that air bubble in the syringe, and push it in behind the oil. I think the purpose is to push the oil in deeper. Do any of you do that?

Its not to push it deeper, its to ensure that you get all of the oil, and that none of it gets left in the syringe/needle. But your talking a pretty small amount...
 
askari said:
I've got some injectable QV winny, 50mg/ml.

I'm ready to start using it.

What gauge and length needle should I use?

I want to do spot injections, right? Are these injections IM or subQ? How should I pick my injection spots?

Maybe there's a winny faq somewhere?

Thanks in advance.

Just a thought, but don't make the mistake of thinking spot injections means you shoot your chest to get bigger pecs, that's a newb myth. It doesn't happen and you'll waste good gear. You want to inject in areas where your blood circulation is optimal. That's why the glutes, shoulder, and quad are not only sites for using gear, but also for a Dr. administering a vaccine, a diabetic using insulin, and getting a quick flu shot. Also, do your homework on how to load a syringe and score an ampule. It's absolutley vital. You dont want air bubbles in that frikken pin dude. You can get a Embolism. Read up like your taking an exam to be a lawyer.
 
toxicsambo You dont want air bubbles in that frikken pin dude. You can get a Embolism. Read up like your taking an exam to be a lawyer.[/QUOTE said:
Exactly. I don't know why some on this board talk about shooting with air in the syringe. I've gotten in arguments about this b4. It's dangerous. Plain and simple. Why take the risk to save .05 of a CC that left in the pin. Not worth it IMO.
 
Actually, if everybody on here used the search button, then what the fuck would we need a message board for? Swallow the shit. Pull it in a syringe and then just shoot it your mouth and swallow it. No since in sticking yourself if you dont half unless you just like injections like I used to when i was a newbie. Bam
 
Right. I probably will just do that (drink it). According to Chemical Muscle Enhancement and the personal experience of a trusted friend, injectable Winstrol acts the same way whether you inject it or drink it. My friend found the QV winstrol to be very painful when he injected it.

Bam Bam said:
Actually, if everybody on here used the search button, then what the fuck would we need a message board for? Swallow the shit. Pull it in a syringe and then just shoot it your mouth and swallow it. No since in sticking yourself if you dont half unless you just like injections like I used to when i was a newbie. Bam
 
askari said:
Right. I probably will just do that (drink it). According to Chemical Muscle Enhancement and the personal experience of a trusted friend, injectable Winstrol acts the same way whether you inject it or drink it. My friend found the QV winstrol to be very painful when he injected it.

Read these posts I found from other Anabolic Forums.
1]" Most injectables will not work orally. As for winny absorbtion, its argued back and forth constantly. Some believe that 25-50% of the effectiveness is lost, some say they can't tell a difference. Unless you have micronized winstrol though, you may want to drink it anyway, but feel free to experiment.

If it causes pain though, ED/EOD shots are going to suck. If I did injectable winny (I wont touch any winstrol) I'd be doing it ED myself."

2]"there is a study out on this. And basically the study says if you shot 25 mg you will need almost double that orally to get the same effects"

Finally the best one 3]"Add it to a beer and drink it!" That's a fkn joke btw.
:worried:

I'm thinking you should just forget about it and save youeself a trip to the morgue.

BTW, Why the fk would you buy INJECTABLE gear if you're AFRAID of pain? Lots of gear stings, big fkn deal, suck it up like a big boy.
 
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Obviously youve never used QV winny. Bam isnt being retarded, the winny WILL work the same if you dring it or shoot it. The only painless (relatively) winny ive found is Zambons (thanx Satch!) and they are expensive! Ret says that the Illium Stanabolic is painless too, but i havent had the chance to try it yet. If you insist on injecting, heat it up first as this will make the next day pain much less. IMO, just dont use QV. :artist:
Bionic
 
I have to agree with everyone, why would you buy juice and not know about it. Not to mention you bought one of the most pricey kinds out there, and now your researching. If you don't like needles Winny is the worst for you. You have to inject every day or everyother day. Get something oral or with a longer half life if you don't want to inject.
 
You're right ,I haven't used Q.V winny. But I used Winthrop winny and it stung like a mofo. It was floating around and I took it, but pain with gear sometimes just go hand and hand.
 
I bought the QV winny knowing what I know today. The person I bought it from, who is a good friend, long time knowledgeable AAS user, and generally smart guy, drinks the QV injectable winny and finds it effective. He injected it himself for 2 weeks ED until the pain became unbearable. He said the only winny he'd inject is Zambon's, although he can't find it and neither can I.

Furthermore, before I bought this winny I consulted Chemical Muscle Enhancement. I think we all agree that's a reliable source of information. Spellwin clearly says there is no difference between injecting and drinking injectable winstrol.

I'm not afraid of needles. I inject GH every day and I've probably injected oils 40 or 50 times over the course of two cycles, and this, my third. I just don't want to deal with unnecessary and avoidable pain.

bruce410 said:
I have to agree with everyone, why would you buy juice and not know about it. Not to mention you bought one of the most pricey kinds out there, and now your researching. If you don't like needles Winny is the worst for you. You have to inject every day or everyother day. Get something oral or with a longer half life if you don't want to inject.
 
I'm more worried about the air in the syringe. That shit scares the hell out of me. And Q.V Winny and Beer sounds like a new type of Boilermaker. wOOt!
 
Ive both injected and swallowed and had the same results. Ive never had pain from winny injects but Ive never tried the qv either. If you inject, I would just hit the basic 6 spots. Glutes, Quads and delts. You will have no problem with this. Bam

toxicsambo said:
I'm more worried about the air in the syringe. That shit scares the hell out of me. And Q.V Winny and Beer sounds like a new type of Boilermaker. wOOt!
 
askari said:
I've got some injectable QV winny, 50mg/ml.

I'm ready to start using it.

What gauge and length needle should I use?

I want to do spot injections, right? Are these injections IM or subQ? How should I pick my injection spots?

Maybe there's a winny faq somewhere?

Thanks in advance.


Heat it up when the dart is loaded by dropping it into a 20z. or so shaker cup and let it warm up for 4 minutes then inject,,,if you dont warm it up and inject it still you'll feel like you got hit by a truck in the muscle you inj. into...or you can drink it ;)
 
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