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How much protein do you eat while bulking?
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SgtSlaughter
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off the cuff... I think you should aim for 1.5 - 2 grams of protein / pound. Afterall .... wouldn't 1 gram / pound just be maintance?
cheeseball
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The only peer reviewed study that someone showed me states that 1.25-1.50g/lb of bodyweight is the most some one needs to grow. Of course, this is without the assistance of aas. You also need to make sure to get plenty of clean carbs and do not forget about efa's. They are very important. Of course if it is a bulk, i would shoot for the higher end. I weigh 180 and I'm putting down about 240g of protein right now. That isn't required but I see good progress with this. Just start high or low and see how your body responds, and bump up calories as you hit sticking points. or lower if you are gaining fat. good luck.
Stacemranger
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When I bulk, with AS or not, 400 minimum. I have done this multiple times and have seen great results off of it. Mainly food with a PWO shake and casein shake before bed where all it comes from.
Lifterforlife
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When bulking, you could easily get by with 1 gr. of protein per lb.
Amino acid oxidation rates markedly influenced by the availability of other fuels, i.e., glucose, free fatty acids (FFA) and ketone bodies (FLATT and BLACKBURN, 1976). This reflects the fact that maintenance of ATP levels takes priority in all cells, so that any available substrates will be used to regenerate ATP from ADP and phosphate.
Consuming carbohydrate to maintain glucose availability reduces the need to obtain energy by amino acid oxidation. Ingestion of some 100 g of carbohydrate per day reduces N excretion by about half, a phenomenon well known as the 'protein-sparing effect of dietary carbohydrate' (GAMBLE, 1946)
Amino acid oxidation rates markedly influenced by the availability of other fuels, i.e., glucose, free fatty acids (FFA) and ketone bodies (FLATT and BLACKBURN, 1976). This reflects the fact that maintenance of ATP levels takes priority in all cells, so that any available substrates will be used to regenerate ATP from ADP and phosphate.
Consuming carbohydrate to maintain glucose availability reduces the need to obtain energy by amino acid oxidation. Ingestion of some 100 g of carbohydrate per day reduces N excretion by about half, a phenomenon well known as the 'protein-sparing effect of dietary carbohydrate' (GAMBLE, 1946)
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Mr.X
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36drew said:
Depending on the results you want, I would increase protein as your goals increase. 2g protein/lb. of bodyweight is a bit high, but very feasible for good gains.
You should try to balance your diet between p/c/f, 50% protein/30% carbs/20% fat are good bulking ratios.
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Mr.X
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36drew said:
Ratios vary from person to person. The 50/30/20 is a general ratio you can alter based on your needs.
Lifterforlife
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So, I'm left wondering, if you need 2 gr. or more of protein when bulking, when dieting, and decreasing carbs, how much more would one then need...... 4 gr., 5 gr., maybe more of protein? Protein needs will definitely rise to avoid excessive oxidation of amino acids.
Has anyone who does the high amounts of protein when bulking (2 gr. and up), and again, while bulking, I am assuming a good amount of carbs, and gained from it think maybe it might just be from increased caloric intake?
As previously mentioned, amino acid oxidation rates are markedly influenced by the availability of other fuels. So, wouldn't it be logical that you need less when bulking?
Just a question.....don't want to support the protein companies.
Has anyone who does the high amounts of protein when bulking (2 gr. and up), and again, while bulking, I am assuming a good amount of carbs, and gained from it think maybe it might just be from increased caloric intake?
As previously mentioned, amino acid oxidation rates are markedly influenced by the availability of other fuels. So, wouldn't it be logical that you need less when bulking?
Just a question.....don't want to support the protein companies.
From chatting to people and reading up on it, the recommended level seems to be 1.5g per lb of weight, but eastern european weightlifters are reported to be eating over 400g per day, these are huge guys but it makes you think when u see this years worlds strongest man contest.
I'm 185lb and consume about 250g per day (including a ceasin shake before bed), plenty of carbs up to early evening, fruit veg starch etc, EFA (flax seed oils) and never neglect your vitamins, zinc, b6/12 etc.
I'm 185lb and consume about 250g per day (including a ceasin shake before bed), plenty of carbs up to early evening, fruit veg starch etc, EFA (flax seed oils) and never neglect your vitamins, zinc, b6/12 etc.
harbinator
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I try to get between 350-400/g day when bulking but I also weigh 250lb.
Lifterforlife
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Yeah, I am kind of in the 1.5 gr. per lb. camp. I believe this is truly all we need when bulking. Most are taking in plenty enough carbs at this time and probably a decent amount of fat for kickers for protein sparing. Anything over sure won't hurt, but it is in my opinion simply extra calories, thus more gain in that way.
But then again, if this is the way you need to make your required calories, by all means up the protein. Always better to err on the high side of protein than not enough. Some folks for example are highly carb intolerant, and these may well do better with a higher protein intake.
But, bottom line, this comes into play....Consuming carbohydrate to maintain glucose availability reduces the need to obtain energy by amino acid oxidation. (thus the fact that dietary intake of aminos can do its intended job). Ingestion of simply 100 g of carbohydrate per day reduces nitrogen excretion by about half, a phenomenon well known as the 'protein-sparing effect of dietary carbohydrate'.
But then again, if this is the way you need to make your required calories, by all means up the protein. Always better to err on the high side of protein than not enough. Some folks for example are highly carb intolerant, and these may well do better with a higher protein intake.
But, bottom line, this comes into play....Consuming carbohydrate to maintain glucose availability reduces the need to obtain energy by amino acid oxidation. (thus the fact that dietary intake of aminos can do its intended job). Ingestion of simply 100 g of carbohydrate per day reduces nitrogen excretion by about half, a phenomenon well known as the 'protein-sparing effect of dietary carbohydrate'.
