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How long to learn on a motorcycle?

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Im going to buy a junker honda or something to learn on before buying a nice harley. How long should i keep the junker to learn on before laying down the cash for a harley? I dont want to buy a harley too soon and lay it down because of not being experienced enough
 
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I think buying a motorcycle is key for daily driving to save gas - I think KB found some guy on Craigs List in his area to teach him how to ride one.
 
Riding a motorcycle is easier than riding a bike. Less balancing and everything. just get on a non-busy road and practice. and dont be drinking before hand either.
 
chewyxrage said:
I think buying a motorcycle is key for daily driving to save gas - I think KB found some guy on Craigs List in his area to teach him how to ride one.
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I don't think Harley's are too easy on gas, then neither are crotch rockets the way most fuggers ride them.
 
Actually we take our bike when we can for two reasons: we LOVE to ride and the gas mileage can't be beat.

I have no experience when it comes to learning to ride. I'll send the Old Grump over here to give you his .02
 
ceo said:
I don't think Harley's are too easy on gas, then neither are crotch rockets the way most fuggers ride them.
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HArley 88 CI motor = 34 city 50 hwy
 
I am a retired rider now (had my fair share of accidents - most not my fault). The most recent one put me in the hospital for weeks. I got some pretty nasty road rash that required skin grafts as well as a bad case of cellulitis (no that is not fat persons disease...lol). You never stop learning or becoming more comfortable. You just dont want to ever become too comfortable then u start getting lazy like when we drive cars.

The best advice I can give is buy something inexpensive. Always wear your helmet. It is a bitch to do sometimes (especially in summer) but wear a riding jacket and no shorts. Take a qualified riding course and take a few years learning. There is a big difference between riding a crotch rocket, or any smaller bike for that matter, and a harley. The learning almost starts over. When you get your permit/license take the smallest bike you can qualify with (borrow one if u have to). I have seen too many brand new harleys get dumped navigating the cones.
 
I do know (from hearing others speak - not personal experience as I do NOT ride) that going from a dirt bike/crotchrocket does NOT = proficiency on a bigger heavier bike such as a Harley (or YamaHarley, etc).

8and20 gives solid advice about wearing your helmet and jacket and keeping your legz covered. ALWAYS wear riding boots too. If my Old Grump had not been wearing his leathers and Harley boots his injuries would have been far more severe when he unexpectedly dumped his bike as he was turning the corner onto our street going like 2 miles p/hr. To this day we still aren't sure why he went down. He has been riding since before I was born, around 1964 or so. He went down and "walked" away (literally) with a broken leg, torn tendon, broken hand and NO road rash. His jacket got pretty beat up instead of his body.

I admit we don't always wear all of our gear and that is foolish, true. Perhaps I have a false sense of security in that he has been riding so long, never ever does stoopid "cowboy" shit and NEVER does he drink a single drink when he is riding and in all that time he has only dumped the bike 3 times, his injuries were the worst this last time.

And yes, I know... it only takes ONCE.

... worst of all we rarely wear our helmets.

Bad example for you, I know. :(
 
what the fuck, if ive got to take multiple years just to learn on a junker its not worth it.
 
I've seen many people die from motorcycle accidents. In the ER we called em "donorcycles". Wearing full gear helps, but still seen em die with full gear.
 
We've always said "If you haven't put one down your turns coming."

Learning to ride is not a quick thing. You learn to drive a car over years of experiences, bikes are no different. The worst wrecks I've seen were by inexperienced riders going way beyond their abilities.
 
BNG said:
We've always said "If you haven't put one down your turns coming."

Learning to ride is not a quick thing. You learn to drive a car over years of experiences, bikes are no different. The worst wrecks I've seen were by inexperienced riders going way beyond their abilities.
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My favorites are the dipshits riding crotchrockets doing 90mph, popping wheelies riding that way in the HOV for miles, weaving in and out of traffic...
 
BIKINIMOM said:
My favorites are the dipshits riding crotchrockets doing 90mph, popping wheelies riding that way in the HOV for miles, weaving in and out of traffic...
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Just saw one of those (the aftermath) Sun. Genius was wheel up, rode into the back of a car, flopped over, and was promptly run over. I have not heard if he made it.
I was struck two years ago last Friday by a dipshit on a dirt bike on the highway. He was pullin wheelies at dusk on a bike with no headlight. He not in the gene pool.
If they want to die that's up to them. It sucks when they pick you to end their lives on though. Then some asshole family member tries to sue. :mad:
 
I started riding a 450 cc dirt bike then a few weeks later started on a knucklehead that I put together from a few dozen boxes of parts. I have been riding for 46 years this month. I still learn something everyday. The day I take riding for granted is the day I will die. Learn to ride what you want to keep. I have seen dozens of people go from a yamazukisaki to a Harley and dump the first couple days. Unless you have NEVER been on a bike. Then buy a vespa and stay off the main highways. You will make your momma happy by staying around.

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Grumpy Old Man said:
I started riding a 450 cc dirt bike then a few weeks later started on a knucklehead that I put together from a few dozen boxes of parts. I have been riding for 46 years this month. I still learn something everyday. The day I take riding for granted is the day I will die. Learn to ride what you want to keep. I have seen dozens of people go from a yamazukisaki to a Harley and dump the first couple days. Unless you have NEVER been on a bike. Then buy a vespa and stay off the main highways. You will make your momma happy by staying around.

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never been on a bike so gonna get a junker shadow or intruder or something first then a hog later
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Ok brother! Ride safe! Can I get a life insurance policy on you? I'll buy.

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you said to buy what you want to keep UNLESS ive never been on a bike, then in that case i should but a $700 jap beater to learn on before laying down the cash on a nice hog right?
 
What kind of Harley you planning on getting? if you're getting a sporty.. just learn on that.. easiest bike in the world to ride..

If you're planning on getting a chop.. defintely practice on something else first..
 
milo hobgoblin said:
What kind of Harley you planning on getting? if you're getting a sporty.. just learn on that.. easiest bike in the world to ride..

If you're planning on getting a chop.. defintely practice on something else first..
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dyna lowrider or softail
 
superdave said:
dyna lowrider or softail
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if you've NEVER ridden a bike.. maybe borrow one for a few weeks. Just to get used to it.

bending a 15-20k bike over some noob mistake really sucks..

and take the rider safety course WELL worth it for new riders.
 
milo hobgoblin said:
if you've NEVER ridden a bike.. maybe borrow one for a few weeks. Just to get used to it.

bending a 15-20k bike over some noob mistake really sucks..

and take the rider safety course WELL worth it for new riders.
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You mean the harley course?
I will take the DMV course also
 
damn dude you're like the great great grandpa of EF :Chef:

Grumpy Old Man said:
I started riding a 450 cc dirt bike then a few weeks later started on a knucklehead that I put together from a few dozen boxes of parts. I have been riding for 46 years this month. I still learn something everyday. The day I take riding for granted is the day I will die. Learn to ride what you want to keep. I have seen dozens of people go from a yamazukisaki to a Harley and dump the first couple days. Unless you have NEVER been on a bike. Then buy a vespa and stay off the main highways. You will make your momma happy by staying around.

:santa:
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Riding is not that difficult. Riding in traffic can be. Just take your time and get used to it. Take a good MSF course and ALWAYS wear your gear, dress for the fall, not the ride.

There are 2 schools of though. Buy cheap and learn or jump into it. In my experience (I worked at a dealership for 5 years) most people that buy a "small learner" bike are ready to trade it in in 1 year. Not to say they should but they think they are and then they lose their asses. My opinion. If you can find a cheap and I mean disposable bike to learn on, great. If not, get what you want. You are going to wreck sooner or later, everyone does. There are bikers who have gone down and those who will go down.

BTW...my sportbike gets 39mpg at the race track or 40 on the highway cruisin. They are so efficient they just dont vary much. A cruise is a little less efficent so it varies more, however far more comfortable.

Good luck, ride safe and keep the rubber side down!
 
Beware everyone else on the road...beware animals (this includes insects....especially bees and locusts....when those big fat "knuckleballs" wake up)...beware gravel.....beware any and all turns in the raod...beware the elements....beware yourself.....if you have a heavy bike then beware stopping....those fuckers are a bitch to tip back up.
 
superdave said:
you said to buy what you want to keep UNLESS ive never been on a bike, then in that case i should but a $700 jap beater to learn on before laying down the cash on a nice hog right?
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I would take the riders edge course that harley dealers offer. Get a nice bike that you can ride every chance you get and learn by doing. BUT take the course first and buy one. A harley is a great bike now, they hardly ever have an issue, don't leak anymore and have a sound that can't be duplicated by the yamakawazukis. You will find a new group of great people and meet friends every place you stop that has a bike in front.

But be prepared to spend multiple thousands on extras. My advise is to buy a 2-4 yr old bike, and get one that another owner spend thousands on the little things. You will then be able to start with a lot of chrome, exhaust and some parts that you can live with.

BUT do not a sportster, they are way top heavy, underpowered and the guys that buy them for their old ladies must have a big insurance policy on them....(the old ladies that is)

Other than that watch out for everything around you, drive as far in front of you as you can see and don't drink, do stupid shit or get too comfortable until you have ridden for 80 years, then WTF balls to the walls and go out like a man.

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heavy_duty said:
damn dude you're like the great great grandpa of EF :Chef:
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Why yes I am, but until I got married I still pulled down massive amounts of nani.. Usually two or three at a time, age isn't always so bad. I think, course my memory has been getting worse lately, must be the BM bending over in front of me all the time.

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gonna get a softail or lowrider never a sportster. but i do want a brand new no-one-farted-in-the-seat-or-fingerfucked-everything hog. Im also getting the best warranty and i will worry about the add ons incrementally.
 
superdave said:
gonna get a softail or lowrider never a sportster. but i do want a brand new no-one-farted-in-the-seat-or-fingerfucked-everything hog. Im also getting the best warranty and i will worry about the add ons incrementally.
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You can get a warranty with a used bike for a reasonable price. A new seat is about 400 bucks for a soft tail, dyna etc. A gel seat is good for your passenger if ya have one.

Before you decide to buy a new bike get a harley catalogue and take a look at what you might want to get "incrementally". They should just give you the bike for free and hand you a catalogue. I have about 15k in "incremental" stuff on my Road King and still want some more, just haven't had the time to gete the stuff. So there is probably another 3 or 4 k that will be on the bike before summer comes.

There are a lot of great bikes that have few miles on them cause the RUB's bought it tricked it out and rode it to the local Harley hang out and got way skerred then rode it back to their garage which is where it stayed. Mine is an '05 had less than 2000 miles on it when BM bought it for my birthday last March 18th one year today. Been ridden 22k miles and has been no problem.

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Grumpy Old Man said:
You can get a warranty with a used bike for a reasonable price. A new seat is about 400 bucks for a soft tail, dyna etc. A gel seat is good for your passenger if ya have one.

Before you decide to buy a new bike get a harley catalogue and take a look at what you might want to get "incrementally". They should just give you the bike for free and hand you a catalogue. I have about 15k in "incremental" stuff on my Road King and still want some more, just haven't had the time to gete the stuff. So there is probably another 3 or 4 k that will be on the bike before summer comes.

There are a lot of great bikes that have few miles on them cause the RUB's bought it tricked it out and rode it to the local Harley hang out and got way skerred then rode it back to their garage which is where it stayed. Mine is an '05 had less than 2000 miles on it when BM bought it for my birthday last March 18th one year today. Been ridden 22k miles and has been no problem.

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Ok I will consider used but only very slightly used lol
Whats a RUB
 
superdave said:
Ok I will consider used but only very slightly used lol
Whats a RUB
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What we old school bikers refer to as a Rich Urban Biker, not that fondly. Picture a couple with a new bike of some make walking around in full leathers, BUT he has leather pants, new boots that are polished his jacket draped over his shoulders like a cape. His woman with leather pants, high heel boots, a vest trimmed in mink and brand new boobs. By the way he just had his eyebrows waxed.

That my friend is a RUB

I have seen Harleys that were 00's that had less than 3000 miles and looked like a brand new bike, except with 10k in chrome and pipes. They are everywhere now.

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Grumpy Old Man said:
What we old school bikers refer to as a Rich Urban Biker, not that fondly. Picture a couple with a new bike of some make walking around in full leathers, BUT he has leather pants, new boots that are polished his jacket draped over his shoulders like a cape. His woman with leather pants, high heel boots, a vest trimmed in mink and brand new boobs. By the way he just had his eyebrows waxed.

That my friend is a RUB

I have seen Harleys that were 00's that had less than 3000 miles and looked like a brand new bike, except with 10k in chrome and pipes. They are everywhere now.

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Well Im about to have a nice accounting job downtown so I will try to not become a rub. haha
 
superdave said:
Well Im about to have a nice accounting job downtown so I will try to not become a rub. haha
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So you are going to wear your three piece to the bar with your tassled loafers and pound down some beer with the other bikers? I never drink when I ride but those double diet cokes on the rocks sure make me pee.

Enjoy riding it is the only place you can be where there is only concentration on one thing. Riding...

Let me know when you get the bike, come to texas and get to know some of the Texas hospitality and see some great roads, hang outs and beautiful country roads.

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and there really are two kinds of bikers, those that have been down and those that are going to go down as has been said numerous times here. I have dumped three times in 46 yrs. hopefully it will be another 20 before I go down again. I usually am carrying very precious cargo on the bitch seat.

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Grumpy Old Man said:
Why yes I am, but until I got married I still pulled down massive amounts of nani.. Usually two or three at a time, age isn't always so bad. I think, course my memory has been getting worse lately, must be the BM bending over in front of me all the time.

:santa:
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LOL @ "massive amounts" :dance2:
 
MSF course. You won't be sorry, trust me.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
So you are going to wear your three piece to the bar with your tassled loafers and pound down some beer with the other bikers? I never drink when I ride but those double diet cokes on the rocks sure make me pee.

Let me know when you get the bike, come to texas and get to know some of the Texas hospitality and see some great roads, hang outs and beautiful country roads.
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I would never drink and ride, I used to drink and drive but stopped before my luck ran out on that one.
And Ive been in Texas since 1980, Im moving from austin to houston in May. Theres a lot of great roads around the hill country Ive had my eye on for a long time.
 
superdave said:
is that the harley course or something else
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Motorcycle Safety Foundation. They offer courses nationwide for beginning riders. You'd need to schedule ahead of time, but you don't have to use your own bike and you are exposed to techniques that WILL help you starting out. If you have zero two wheel experience then I'd really recommend it.

MSF

Welcome to two wheels... you won't be sorry.

Cheers.
 
dirty~d~ said:
Motorcycle Safety Foundation. They offer courses nationwide for beginning riders. You'd need to schedule ahead of time, but you don't have to use your own bike and you are exposed to techniques that WILL help you starting out. If you have zero two wheel experience then I'd really recommend it.

MSF

Welcome to two wheels... you won't be sorry.

Cheers.
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I agree! Using your own bike is a good idea unless this is your first experience. The local Harley dealers have a Riders Edge course where they use Buells and that saves a few k in repairs while trying to traverse the cones or course. Anything you scratch on a Harley is always over 500 bucks,

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superdave said:
I would never drink and ride, I used to drink and drive but stopped before my luck ran out on that one.
And Ive been in Texas since 1980, Im moving from austin to houston in May. Theres a lot of great roads around the hill country Ive had my eye on for a long time.
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Shit I forgot you are in Austin. See old age really works. We will be down there in a couple weeks, PM me I will give you my contact info or here I really don't care. There are awesome roads from Austin to Copperas Cove and beyond.

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Grumpy Old Man said:
Shit I forgot you are in Austin. See old age really works. We will be down there in a couple weeks, PM me I will give you my contact info or here I really don't care. There are awesome roads from Austin to Copperas Cove and beyond.

:santa:
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Ummmm and you were going to inform me of this roadtrip.... when?
 
heavy_duty said:
:santa: How's the ride on Wisteria Lane?
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When you get there let me know. I always wondered what those people were doing. I hope to hear from you sometime in the next decade or so when you get there.

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