Dude, I didn't get jack shit off of a winny only cycle at those doses. Either my jurox was fake, or I'll have to take a lot more. Winny is on my shitlist right now, probably because I didn't know what I was doing.
you should start to notice gains in strength in the 2nd or 3rd week... weeks 5 and 6 you should start noticing changes as far as vascularity and hardness are concerned... good luck... cya