How long a prison sentence is justifiable

[jerseyart]

For someone who steals 3.5 million dollars?



Edit: Assume for the purpose of discussion that the money cannot be reimbursed

 

[Muddy Mae Spivack]

they should not steal money from people that earn it

 

[milo hobgoblin]

It depends on how they did it and whether or not they can pay restitution.

If there was violence or the potential for serious bodily injury.. like say a FIRE BOMBING. then 10+ years is justifiable.

If its just a stock swindle or bank fraud.. maybe 5.. with restitution.

 

[NJjuice22]

5 years plus i would say.

 

[AAP]

Depends on where they steal it from.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

divide 5 million by the average wage in the country to guage the significance of the crime. 5 mill is a horrendous amount of money for most people, and so punishment should be severe

 

[WODIN]

If they stole it from a honest sweet little old granny who bakes apple pies for church socials then they should be shot. If they still it from drug dealers then they get to keep it tax free. Now figure out the Drug Dealer to Granny Scale and you have a system of metting out justice.

I never said it was perfect I just said it was a system.


Bite me.

Fuck you.

You Douche.

(Getting my thread bashing in ahead of time.)

 

[AAP]

If they stole it from a honest sweet little old granny who bakes apple pies for church socials then they should be shot. If they still it from drug dealers then they get to keep it tax free. Now figure out the Drug Dealer to Granny Scale and you have a system of metting out justice.

I never said it was perfect I just said it was a system.


Bite me.

Fuck you.

You Douche.

(Getting my thread bashing in ahead of time.)

Agreed.

Now wonder how Delay is going to justify it?

 

[jerseyart]

If they stole it from a honest sweet little old granny who bakes apple pies for church socials then they should be shot. If they still it from drug dealers then they get to keep it tax free. Now figure out the Drug Dealer to Granny Scale and you have a system of metting out justice.

I never said it was perfect I just said it was a system.


Bite me.

Fuck you.

You Douche.

(Getting my thread bashing in ahead of time.)

Hee hee

So now only those you like are entitled to legal protection


Yeah it was prompted by your thread, but not as a slight. People have a cognitive disconect when it comes to reasoning cost.

The same people who would think it horrible to take a quarter off your desk will eat $5 worth of your food out of the office fridge without a second thought.

In the example you posted 3.5 million of value was destroyed, and the cost will be born by someone (likely an insurance company, which means that it will be paid by thousands of policy holders, and or stock holders).

The net result is identical to someone walkign into the dealership with a gun and stealing a comparable amount.

In your example one sweet old lady was robbed of her money. But in reality every time something like this happens thousands of grannies (most of whom dont have that kind of disposable income) are robbed and the net result to them is no different than if you took it right out of their purse.

Corporations are a legal fiction. You dont rob from them, you rob from people who own the stock and or their customers

 

[Mr. dB]

I don't think the amount is relevant, what matters is how the crime was committed and who was harmed by it.

 

[UA_Iron]

Enron executives should do life. Actually wait, the death penalty, I am wayyyyy pro-death.

 

[WODIN]

Hee hee

So now only those you like are entitled to legal protection

Legal protection is a misnomer. It should be legal vindication.
Plus I hate granny's and drugdealers and people and cats...and worms...too.. I'm just using a baseline that fits america.

Yeah it was prompted by your thread, but not as a slight. People have a cognitive disconect when it comes to reasoning cost.

Justice aint cheap homeslice!!!!

The same people who would think it horrible to take a quarter off your desk will eat $5 worth of your food out of the office fridge without a second thought.

yeah...so.

In the example you posted 3.5 million of value was destroyed, and the cost will be born by someone (likely an insurance company, which means that it will be paid by thousands of policy holders, and or stock holders).

The net result is identical to someone walkign into the dealership with a gun and stealing a comparable amount.

Shit. The CFO of Enron got 10 years for over $1 Billion in Fraud! So 8 years for a measly $3.5 million is sever.

In your example one sweet old lady was robbed of her money. But in reality every time something like this happens thousands of grannies (most of whom dont have that kind of disposable income) are robbed and the net result to them is no different than if you took it right out of their purse.

Corporations are a legal fiction. You dont rob from them, you rob from people who own the stock and or their customers

By Law corporation exist the same as you or I and have the same rights. I disagree with this distinction but they are currently far from fiction in the eyes of the law. Which is our area of focus here.