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How is ecstacy manufactured?

Athernigy

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I always thought it was made in a lab but some friends are telling me many people get the chemicals and make it in a "bath tub."

Anyone know which is true?

Thanks.

-sk
 
some are made in labs, usually in Asia but most of the stuff you find on the street is bathtub-made shit. Yup just like taking an IP pill.
 
Athernigy said:
I always thought it was made in a lab but some friends are telling me many people get the chemicals and make it in a "bath tub."

Anyone know which is true?
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot make it by simply mixing compounds, so literally cooking up a batch in a bathtub is out. It takes a "lab" of sorts, but not necessarily a professional or commercial lab.

Make shift labs are often referred to as "bathtub breweries."
 
You take some M, add some D. Boil. Add a little m and sprinkle some A.


What do you get? MDmA :)
 
It is a very complex and involved synthesis. There are certain operations that have to be done at a certain temperature for a certain period of time. Like 14 hours or something. If you do it for 12 hours, you get one thing, If you do it for 16 hours, you get another. It has to be very precise to be done right.

Oh yeah and the byproducts stink to high heaven.

I knew a guy who was a chem major who negotiated some deal where he would manufacture somethign like 10,000 hits for a local dude. The dude would provide all ingredients and lab equipment. My friend just had to make a list. He was paid in hits of E, like 500 or something. That was $1500 at the going rate at the time for a aweekend (like 40 hours straight) of work.

I thought he was crazy. Never heard how it turned out.

JC
 
26 separate chemical reactions. Can't be made in your fucking bathtub.

Most of the E in the States comes from Holland and the Benelux countries.

Why can't people spell ecstasy?
 
The problem doesn't lie in the manufacturing, but rather the obtaining of the necessary chemicals brother. These chemicals, if ordered in the USA, are more than likely on a watched list, and the DEA will be there to get you when you pick shit up, if you can even get that far. Most chemcal supply companies will require you to set up an account there with a credit card before you even order. Alot more do a backround check to see if you are in a business that requires the need for those specific chemicals. And don't think that you can get a fake ID, then get some credit cards in that name, and then order the stuff annonymously. The DEA is hip to that, and that's why they will just pop you when you show up to pick up. In order to do it safely, you would need to bring the chems in from either Canada or Mexico. Then all you need is a basic knowledge of Chemistry, a recipe, and a place out in the middle of nowhere to set up shop.

Some of the chems are: Safrole Oil, Red Phospherous, Methylamine. There are others though.
 
Zerxes said:
The problem doesn't lie in the manufacturing, but rather the obtaining of the necessary chemicals brother. These chemicals, if ordered in the USA, are more than likely on a watched list, and the DEA will be there to get you when you pick shit up, if you can even get that far. Most chemcal supply companies will require you to set up an account there with a credit card before you even order. Alot more do a backround check to see if you are in a business that requires the need for those specific chemicals. And don't think that you can get a fake ID, then get some credit cards in that name, and then order the stuff annonymously. The DEA is hip to that, and that's why they will just pop you when you show up to pick up. In order to do it safely, you would need to bring the chems in from either Canada or Mexico. Then all you need is a basic knowledge of Chemistry, a recipe, and a place out in the middle of nowhere to set up shop.

Some of the chems are: Safrole Oil, Red Phospherous, Methylamine. There are others though.
exactly, although if you're a grad student in chemistry with access to a lab, you have the possibility for quite a few extracurricular projects as well as running NMRs on them to determine quality!
 
Zerxes said:
The problem doesn't lie in the manufacturing, but rather the obtaining of the necessary chemicals brother. These chemicals, if ordered in the USA, are more than likely on a watched list,

Try INTERNATIONAL watch list. Two of the chemicals required to make E are on the international watch list. You can't source them anywhere going to the four corners of the earth without attracting attention. They are almost impossible for underground labs to get at this point.
 
Zerxes said:
The problem doesn't lie in the manufacturing, but rather the obtaining of the necessary chemicals brother. These chemicals, if ordered in the USA, are more than likely on a watched list, and the DEA will be there to get you when you pick shit up, if you can even get that far. Most chemcal supply companies will require you to set up an account there with a credit card before you even order. Alot more do a backround check to see if you are in a business that requires the need for those specific chemicals. And don't think that you can get a fake ID, then get some credit cards in that name, and then order the stuff annonymously. The DEA is hip to that, and that's why they will just pop you when you show up to pick up. In order to do it safely, you would need to bring the chems in from either Canada or Mexico. Then all you need is a basic knowledge of Chemistry, a recipe, and a place out in the middle of nowhere to set up shop.

Some of the chems are: Safrole Oil, Red Phospherous, Methylamine. There are others though.



:D
 
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Optimus B said:

exactly, although if you're a grad student in chemistry with access to a lab, you have the possibility for quite a few extracurricular projects as well as running NMRs on them to determine quality!

My dad, who is the chemistry chair of a major university in Canada, was telling me that the son of the Dean of the university got caught manufacturing ecstacy in one of the labs. Oops. Wait to make daddy proud huh? I asked him about his students doing that and he said it was possible though unlikely since they'd have to have good excuses to cover their asses with other grad students.
 
Nathan said:


My dad, who is the chemistry chair of a major university in Canada, was telling me that the son of the Dean of the university got caught manufacturing ecstacy in one of the labs. Oops. Wait to make daddy proud huh? I asked him about his students doing that and he said it was possible though unlikely since they'd have to have good excuses to cover their asses with other grad students.

You should'a hit him up for a couple of rolls, Nate.

You could pound yur peeter all night on that stuff, buddy. Just like U like it.
 
XBiker said:


Jesus Ryan, get a clue.

That goes for Sofa as well.

Wanna know?

The beginning ingredient is SASSAFRAS oil.

From that you synthesize Iso-saphryl.

Next step is MDP2P, which is on ALL DEA watch lists. If it wasn't, then it would be easy to make.

From the MDP2P you foil react to get your MDMA, which is in suspension.

You finally nitrous it out of suspension to form a solid, which is slowly dried.

There are several pathways, but this is the general outline.

Please do not PM me for info as I made this all up after dropping some..... ?

I'd bet good money you took your dose rectally. Safrole is the THE PRIMARY CONSTITUENT OF SASSAFRAS OIL DUMBFUCK!!!
 
XBiker said:


You should'a hit him up for a couple of rolls, Nate.

You could pound yur peeter all night on that stuff, buddy. Just like U like it.

For the record, when I say playing with my penis, I don't mean masturbating. I just mean playful fodnling with my flaccid member. Completely innocent pasttime.
 
Zerxes said:


I'd bet good money you took your dose rectally. Safrole is the THE PRIMARY CONSTITUENT OF SASSAFRAS OIL DUMBFUCK!!!

I heard U were the rectal ranger, Z.

And yes, I know this.

:fro:
 
SofaGeorge said:


Try INTERNATIONAL watch list. Two of the chemicals required to make E are on the international watch list. You can't source them anywhere going to the four corners of the earth without attracting attention. They are almost impossible for underground labs to get at this point.

why is it so easy to get then?
 
XBiker said:


I heard U were the rectal ranger, Z.

And yes, I know this.

:fro:

Let me guess...your wife told you right? Snappy comeback. You're a regular Don Rickles. And no, you didnt know that! You told me to "get a clue", when my post was 100% accurate, then you pussied out & deleted it before I nailed you, because you obviously must have went back to the cut & paste you did, and found out I am right! At least I was posting from memory. Quit trying to sound intelligent. I can hear your brain straining over your wifes snoring practically.
 
Zerxes said:


Let me guess...your wife told you right? Snappy comeback. You're a regular Don Rickles. And no, you didnt know that! You told me to "get a clue", when my post was 100% accurate, then you pussied out & deleted it before I nailed you, because you obviously must have went back to the cut & paste you did, and found out I am right! At least I was posting from memory. Quit trying to sound intelligent. I can hear your brain straining over your wifes snoring practically.

I deleted it for a reason, and that reason wasn't to hide from you. I am sure if you think about it will make complete sense.

I really don't think you know what you're talking about, here Ryan. If so, please post up a laundry list of chemicals and I will tell you whether you are right or not.

BTW, are you saying you're not a fag?
 
XBiker said:


I deleted it for a reason, and that reason wasn't to hide from you. I am sure if you think about it will make complete sense.

I really don't think you know what you're talking about, here Ryan. If so, please post up a laundry list of chemicals and I will tell you whether you are right or not.

BTW, are you saying you're not a fag?

LMAO. You're going to tell me huh? You didn't even know about Safrole until I told YOU! What a joke. And no Im not a "fag" as you so elequently put it. I wouldn't mind bending your cocky ass over and sticking it to you a few times though, just to humiliate you. For the sheer fun of it.
 
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