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I just saw a Canadian news piece that the Homeland Security department is 2 weeks away from keeping all types of information on every citizen. The info includes, subscriptions, prescriptions, email, credit card info, grades and so on and so forth.

This is definitely the beginnning of the end of a free America.

And so the last great empire starts to crumble from within.
 
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2 thick this is a long letter but thought u might read it. since i do work for part of goverment. The FBI l unveiled a $640 million fingerprint system in August, 1999 that's expected to reduce the time it takes to identify suspects from months to hours. At its best, the Integrated Automated Fingerprint Identification System in Clarksburg, W. Va., will allow police officers to take suspects' prints using electronic pads in their cars and compare them almost
immediately with millions of prints on file in the federal computer banks. Currently, 14 states can use the system as of 1999. The FBI maintains fingerprint records and computer files on more than 50 million American adults. Proposals now call for DNA genetic indentification. Each cell in your body contains DNA genetic identification. Each cell in your body contains DNA that is absolutely unique to your body. It is the most accurate identification system to date. Current proposals call for the automatic DNA testing of all soldiers and prisoners. A universal DNA system would provide a future dictator or government with the technology to find anyone who resisted their plans. Government agencies worldwide possess sophisticated
surveillance equipment that can record your phone conversations without directly tapping into your phone. The NSA and it's sister agencies in other western countries now monitor every single phone call, fax, and e-mail in the world. Even secret coded transmissions of foreign governments are routinely monitored by American Intelligence. These signals are downloaded
to a group of Cray IV ( Super Computers) that completes an instantaneous word analysis. The "Dictionary" computer program listens for specific words from a list of three hundred selected key words. These words: may include, assassinate, coke, drugs, nuclear or any of several key words the computer would select a call for human monitoring.
The FBI in the late 90's appealed to the phone companies to alter their new optical cable system that will carry thousands of phone calls on a tiny fiber the size of a human hair. The FBI was concerned that new advanced technology might interfere with their existing ability to easily monitor everyone's phone call. Currently, negotiations are underway to insure that the FBI
and other intelligence agencies will still be able to listen in on your phone calls at will.

Computer records around the world contain a staggering amount of information on every public citizen. In 1990 the US General Accounting Office discovered that 910 major computer databases contained billions of files on private citizens. The FBI, CIA, NSA possess sophisticated technology capable of secretly accessing any of this data without a trace. A high speed computer program can quickly search various possible combinations, or a hacker may simply guess the password and access the most sophisticated computer network. It would amaze you to know how easy it is for a computer professional to access your files holding the most intimate details of your life.
 
calm down people. if this report about the pentagon 'super computer' logging all of this shit, it definately will not happen. the american public wont tolerate that shit. settle down.
 
From a New York Times article:

You Are a Suspect

November 14, 2002
By WILLIAM SAFIRE






WASHINGTON - If the Homeland Security Act is not amended
before passage, here is what will happen to you:

Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine
subscription you buy and medical prescription you fill,
every Web site you visit and e-mail you send or receive,
every academic grade you receive, every bank deposit you
make, every trip you book and every event you attend - all
these transactions and communications will go into what the
Defense Department describes as "a virtual, centralized
grand database."

To this computerized dossier on your private life from
commercial sources, add every piece of information that
government has about you - passport application, driver's
license and bridge toll records, judicial and divorce
records, complaints from nosy neighbors to the F.B.I., your
lifetime paper trail plus the latest hidden camera
surveillance - and you have the supersnoop's dream: a
"Total Information Awareness" about every U.S. citizen.

This is not some far-out Orwellian scenario. It is what
will happen to your personal freedom in the next few weeks
if John Poindexter gets the unprecedented power he seeks.

Remember Poindexter? Brilliant man, first in his class at
the Naval Academy, later earned a doctorate in physics,
rose to national security adviser under President Ronald
Reagan. He had this brilliant idea of secretly selling
missiles to Iran to pay ransom for hostages, and with the
illicit proceeds to illegally support contras in Nicaragua.


A jury convicted Poindexter in 1990 on five felony counts
of misleading Congress and making false statements, but an
appeals court overturned the verdict because Congress had
given him immunity for his testimony. He famously asserted,
"The buck stops here," arguing that the White House staff,
and not the president, was responsible for fateful
decisions that might prove embarrassing.

This ring-knocking master of deceit is back again with a
plan even more scandalous than Iran-contra. He heads the
"Information Awareness Office" in the otherwise excellent
Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which spawned
the Internet and stealth aircraft technology. Poindexter is
now realizing his 20-year dream: getting the "data-mining"
power to snoop on every public and private act of every
American.

Even the hastily passed U.S.A. Patriot Act, which widened
the scope of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and
weakened 15 privacy laws, raised requirements for the
government to report secret eavesdropping to Congress and
the courts. But Poindexter's assault on individual privacy
rides roughshod over such oversight.

He is determined to break down the wall between commercial
snooping and secret government intrusion. The disgraced
admiral dismisses such necessary differentiation as
bureaucratic "stovepiping." And he has been given a $200
million budget to create computer dossiers on 300 million
Americans.

When George W. Bush was running for president, he stood
foursquare in defense of each person's medical, financial
and communications privacy. But Poindexter, whose contempt
for the restraints of oversight drew the Reagan
administration into its most serious blunder, is still
operating on the presumption that on such a sweeping theft
of privacy rights, the buck ends with him and not with the
president.

This time, however, he has been seizing power in the open.
In the past week John Markoff of The Times, followed by
Robert O'Harrow of The Washington Post, have revealed the
extent of Poindexter's operation, but editorialists have
not grasped its undermining of the Freedom of Information
Act.

Political awareness can overcome "Total Information
Awareness," the combined force of commercial and government
snooping. In a similar overreach, Attorney General Ashcroft
tried his Terrorism Information and Prevention System
(TIPS), but public outrage at the use of gossips and postal
workers as snoops caused the House to shoot it down. The
Senate should now do the same to this other exploitation of
fear.

The Latin motto over Poindexter"s new Pentagon office reads
"Scientia Est Potentia" - "knowledge is power." Exactly:
the government's infinite knowledge about you is its power
over you. "We're just as concerned as the next person with
protecting privacy," this brilliant mind blandly assured
The Post. A jury found he spoke falsely before.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/14/opinion/14SAFI.html?ex=1038315549&ei=1&en=eb129261d76178d7
 
i've read about this already and have watched several programs on it. the part that i dont understand is, if they knew this all along (and this is a MAJOR thing), why would they have kept quiet about it. why wouldnt the media have spoken out earlier, instead of waiting a few hours before the bill gets voted on?

people are filing suits against hand gun fingerprinting logs of hand gun sales, do you really think the american public will just sit back on this one? i dont think so.
 
p0ink said:
do you really think the american public will just sit back on this one? i dont think so.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they did. I would wager a bet that at least 70% of the population couldn't care less about this bill or what the governmetn is doing.
 
Here is what I love, the Patriot+Homeland Security acts all these morons were RAVING about back in sept 11th has in essence completely destoryed personal privacy allowing data and voice monitoring with little to no supervision, the use of carnivor (which was already in place to begin with) and the release of both ANY Personal records and school grades to any government official without so much as notification. These acts also create a national student "statistics" database housing every student score on all most every standardized test. Its shit like this that begs for the creation of a unwritten law that allows the killing of all idiots during times of panic.
 
It's the end of the world......as we know it.......
 
p0ink said:
calm down people. if this report about the pentagon 'super computer' logging all of this shit, it definately will not happen. the american public wont tolerate that shit. settle down.

Lets hope not.




Watchdog Urges Bush to Kill Pentagon Data-Mine Plan
November 14, 2002 08:56 PM ET
http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryID=1743083

By Jim Wolf

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon should end research aimed at sifting through everything from credit card transactions to travel records for tip-offs to terrorist plots, the American Civil Liberties Union told President Bush on Thursday.

"If the Pentagon has its way, every American -- from the Nebraskan farmer to the Wall Street banker -- will find themselves under the accusatory cyber-state of an all-powerful national security apparatus," said Laura Murphy, director of the Washington national office.

The Pentagon program would create an infrastructure for what the government hopes will become the most extensive electronic surveillance in history, the watchdog group said.

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, the Pentagon's cradle of emerging technologies, began awarding contracts this month for development of a prototype "Total Information Awareness" system -- a kind of vast global electronic dragnet.

The system would use statistical techniques known as data mining to look for threatening patterns among everyday transactions, the director of the effort, John Poindexter, a former national security advisor, has said.

The civil liberties group said it would link commercial and governmental databases in the United States and overseas, presumably including everything from student report cards to mental-health histories.

If Bush refuses to kill the project now, said Katie Corrigan, an ACLU legislative counsel, "Congress should step in quickly and pull the plug on this dangerous idea."

Poindexter, a retired Navy admiral, has argued that the government needs to "break down the stovepipes" separating commercial and government data bases. Poindexter was convicted on five counts of deceiving Congress in the Iran-Contra scandal but his conviction was set aside on the grounds that his immunized congressional testimony had been used against him.

"We must become much more efficient and more clever in the ways we find new sources of data, mine information from the new and the old, generate information, make it available for analysis, convert it to knowledge, and create actionable options," he said in an Aug. 21 speech to a technology conference in Anaheim, California.

In the first related contract, Booz Allen Hamilton Inc. of Falls Church, Virginia, has been awarded $1.5 million worth of work on a planned $62.9 million contract, the Army said last week. Work under the contract is expected to be wrapped up by Nov. 7, 2007, the Army said.

Philip Zelikow, a member of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board who is executive director of a Markle Foundation task force on national security in the information age, said the government's immediate challenge was to make better use of the mountains of data already in its hands or publicly available.

"Data mining, like any other government data analysis, should occur where there is a focused and demonstrable need to know, balanced against the dangers to civil liberties," he said. "It should be purposeful and responsible."
 
A record showing every move that Clinton, Reagan, or G.W. Bush ever made would be quite interesting to say the least.

If this is passed the result will be that people will quit living normal lives. They will stay at home and do nothing. That is what happens when freedom is not present.
 
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