I met Holyfield about a year ago and he really didn't not seem like he was all there. You could tell all those punch have taken a serious toll on him after only talking to him for a couple of minutes.
Latimer said:I think he's like the lightest heavyweight champion ever. His frame and skeletal structure probably couldn't cope with all the years of getting beat on by the big boys. I mean the guy is a natural middleweight, I don't know if he could even have made heavyweight status without the juice. He is one hell of a pure boxer though.
The Whole F/N Show said:
Lightest heavyweight champ ever? Nah. Back in the day there were guys 185lbs fighting as heavyweight. Of couse I am going way back with that. But even after the class was 200lbs and up champs have weighed around what Holyfield weighs. Holyfield fights/fought around 212-220. Muhammad Ali fought around that weight. I know he was 215lbs for one of the Fraiser fights. Tyson's only about 220lbs but he is shorter.
Latimer said:
Good points, but the guy is definately the smallest in our times. Ali payed the price too though. I'd argue that Holyfield still has the smallest frame in the heavyweight division when it went 200+. Everyone knows he took some gear to get to that level, Ali on the otherhand, I doubt he ever dipped into the juice. Tyson is one of the smaller ones too, but like you stated, his height negates his lower weight.
supersizeme said:lol it's like that mike's hard lemonade commercial where the guy grows a second evil head.
daveyboy said:Oh shit!!! He almost looks deformed with that knot on his head like that! Kinda like the elephant man or something. Sometimes I wonder if some of these guys actually use the headbutt as part of their fighting strategy. I just seem to remember Holyfield/Tyson or one of those guys, can't remember exactly who, headbutting some other fighters before too. Probably just a coincidence.....
That's exactly what I was gonna say; Tyson was livid about the head butts, many of which are clearly deliberate. Holyfield was making some comment post-fight about keeping your head down, etc... but with his height, and if you've watched his previous fights, whenever he's up against a clearly tougher opponent that opponent seems to get many, many head butts and cuts on the brows.Delinquent said:
Holyfield has been renown for head butting incidents. They claim it's his style that does it but damn that's a lot of head butts. It was all the head butting that set Tyson off supposedly
The Whole F/N Show said:I met Holyfield about a year ago and he really didn't not seem like he was all there. You could tell all those punch have taken a serious toll on him after only talking to him for a couple of minutes.
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