High Red Blood Cell Count On TRT

[bigb797977]

I had my endorinologist do blood work before my last cycle and my test level was 195 on 100mg / test cyp week, but my red blood count is on the high end so he refused to raise my test levels. They were not above normal, but they were on the higher end of normal and evidently high red cell count can result in blood clots. I was on 200mg /wk previously and my levels at mid week were perfect at 560. 195 is low for an old man. Does anyone know how to get my red blood cell count down before my next blood work so I can get him to increase my dose. It was about 3 months post cycle that I had my blood drawn so it could have still been high from that.

 

[Zyglamail]

Donating blood is about the only sure fire thing I know of but I dont have any specifics on what you could expect it to drop from a single donation.

 

[HAYEZ]

go to red cross and donate DOUBLE RED BLOOD CELLS that will get you back into perfect range..i do this every time my days are up to be ready again...i used to have a iron level of 49% and blood was almost to thick to donate...now im percet..been donating for 4 years continuously
remember double red blood cells...not just normal donation
Double Red Cell Donation | American Red Cross

 

[Zyglamail]

Good info Hayez, thanks for the link! How often can you do a double donation?

 

[HAYEZ]

every 118 days if i remember right...it is healthy for us that cycle to do...on top of that its used to help others and considering we make way more then we need knocks out two things at once..i used to feel sluggish and my chest neck were always red etc..once i started dpnating i have not had that problem anymore...after donating make me feel refreshed oddly enough

 

[Arabian]

every 118 days if i remember right...it is healthy for us that cycle to do...on top of that its used to help others and considering we make way more then we need knocks out two things at once..i used to feel sluggish and my chest neck were always red etc..once i started dpnating i have not had that problem anymore...after donating make me feel refreshed oddly enough

Great Info Hayez, I am definitely going to check this out. Does it thin your blood level? How does just donating help you?

 

[HAYEZ]

Great Info Hayez, I am definitely going to check this out. Does it thin your blood level? How does just donating help you?

if you dont donate your hemocrit hemoglobin etc etc get to high...think of your blood turning into a sludge as its pumped through your body..by donating it thins out the blood leading less stress and dangers to you in the long run...donating does not effect your strength etc either in gym...i typically take it easy the day i donate then back in gym following day

 

[HAYEZ]

This is more then likely why your doc wont up ur dose..surprised he didnt suggest donating tho



Possible causes of elevated hemoglobin
A high hemoglobin count usually suggests that you have too many red blood cells. This condition is also called erythrocytosis. It can lead to a several complications because it can impair circulation and lead to abnormal clotting.
An elevated hemoglobin concentration is usually the result of 2 mechanisms:
increased red blood cell production as a compensatory mechanism when blood oxygen carrying capacity is compromised to meet the demand of tissue
contracted plasma volume resulting in an appearance of greater red cell volume
Causes of an elevated hemoglobin count may include:

Living at high altitudes- Because the higher the altitude is, the lower oxygen level is in the air- body is producing more hemoglobin to bind as much oxygen as it is possible!
Smoking- Several studies done in the past with smokers volunteers have proven that great percentage of the smokers have the elevated hemoglobin level, although the mechanism is still unknown. Some experts believe that it could be because of low level of "pure" oxygen in the smoker's lungs! So, this could be an adoptive mechanism on low oxygen levels!
Dehydration - Dehydration produces falsely high hemoglobin which disappears when proper fluid balance is restored.

The symptoms and possible complications
Although much of the clinical focus has been on anemia as a condition where there is lack of hemoglobin, there are also problems at the high end.
The most notable consequence is increased blood viscosity.
Several studies have proven that the relation between hemoglobin and blood viscosity is linear when the hematocrit is <0.50 (equivalent to a hemoglobin value of 160 g/L). Above this hemoglobin concentration, the relation becomes exponential, which means that a small increase in hemoglobin or hematocrit results in a large increase in viscosity. Once hemoglobin concentrations reach 180 g/L, the blood viscosity reaches a level that impairs microcirculation and an inadequate amount of oxygen is transported to tissues, similar to the situation with severe anemia.
Symptoms
Peripheral cyanosis and impaired mental function resulting from compromised cerebral blood circulation are the two most common symptoms of elevated hemoglobin! Additionally, because of the poor blood flow, the risk of thrombo-embolism increases significantly.
Treatment
Because the high hemoglobin couldn't be considered as a special disorder it could be only treated as a symptom of some other underlying disease. That's why- treating the underlying disease will probably lower the hemoglobin level!

Read more: Answers.com - What does an Elevated hemoglobin mean

 

[Arabian]

if you dont donate your hemocrit hemoglobin etc etc get to high...think of your blood turning into a sludge as its pumped through your body..by donating it thins out the blood leading less stress and dangers to you in the long run...donating does not effect your strength etc either in gym...i typically take it easy the day i donate then back in gym following day

Thanks Hayez, I am planning on possible start donating this week. Good info

 

[HAYEZ]

if you cycle every now and then then its prob not a big deal...but for anyone that has for a while or plans to long term its a good thing to do...i may of done big doses in the past but typically i NEVER eat orals and i always donate..so far my cholesterol has always been around 120 or so, bp 110/59 and blood levels all in check...last time i got a complete workout my cardiovascular risk was non existent now since i slacked off the gym the last year and a half my bp kinda fucked hahaha but thats because i picked up smoking and drinking along with buffets and fast food hahahahahaha but now im back on the right track for past 2 months