High dose shutdown Question

[idcbp]

Hey bros, I'll try and put this as concisely as I can, I'm sure there plenty I'm missing, but here goes. With regards to suppression of natural test. production, we all agree that given a sufficient duration and volume of exogeneous androgens, the body will respond by ceasing to produce its own test. My limited understanding is that this actually occurs when the body senses changes due to the test source, but more specifically involving estrogen. Anyways, the point I'm getting to is that once we go into total shutdown, at that point our body has stopped its own production.

So if and when a bb detects extreme shutdown, which can occur at 500mg of test for 10 weeks, would it not make sense to up ones andros to the highest level the bb were comfortable with. Seeing as the nat. test battle has been lost and all that can be done is revive them post cycle, why not get the most out of the suppression.

My question is this, once total shutdown occurs and lets say it occurs at 500mg of test, is it really much worse from a suppression standpoint and future recovery for a bb to run 500mgs the next 5 weeks as opoosed to 1000mg. If shutdown is shutdown, the body has stopped and is basically out cold until its revived so why not get max results? Some would argue recovery would be more difficult, but I'm not so sure this would be the case. Its a matter of a signal being sent or not being sent and the amount of andro only has to be sufficient, if its way over its not going to do anything worse than completely blocking which is already the case. I'm just throwing this out there, I'd welcome being educated if need be. It just seems like one might consider recovery in limiting gear volumes, but if extreme to total suppresion does occur might we not benefit from going to our comfortable max?

Let me hear it bros.

 

[nydj66]

I agree with you that once you're shut down, dosage of testosterone is irrelevant. However, if you plan to jack the dosage of testosterone way up, other side effects become a major concern.

Also, the longer the duration of the cycle, the more atrophied the tesicles will become. This will become a major obstacle to recovery. The use of HCG can prevent this. Studies show that the hypothalamus and pituitary can recover their function quickly even after years of HRT. It is the testicles that are the problem when someone experiences a difficult recovery.

 

[massatronic]

The theory as I've read it is that firstly a prolonged shutdown amkesit harder for your body to ever recover.

Your steroid receptors get insensitized and gains diminish during long cycles. A break allows you properly benefit from AAS use (just as people cycle creatine, or even protein intake or training intensity etc)

The synthetic AAS are not exctly the same as the bodies, so you will suffer other sides hilst using them to sustain a natural test level... especially if using orals.

That said there are threads that talk about how little the pros seem to off cycle, and one about a BB who uses 600mg of cyp year round, upped pre-comp.