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mr. snakes
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Prizz said:
A Doctor said once, that eating fruit & oatmeal helps to reduce high blood pressure ......................................
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neverenuf
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Prizz said:
i know you know the water retention can cause the bp probs...i found by doing some cardio helped keep my bp in check when bulking...dont know if that helps...
Goldprospector
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Lots of Oatmeal and take Garlique, Cardio Assist, Advanced Heart Formula
njmuscleguy
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Ginger and Garlic!! Particularly ginger (it has components that are vasodilators and ACE inhibitors)...
I've been taking Ginger for several months now and my doctor is amazed how low (normal though) my BP is!
ginger and garlic are also great for lowering cholesterol
I've been taking Ginger for several months now and my doctor is amazed how low (normal though) my BP is!
ginger and garlic are also great for lowering cholesterol
Prizz
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Thanks guys..... I've been doing some reading around, and I'm just gonna hit the vitamin store and get on some minerals.... Should have been doing that weeks ago, but you know.... Was thinking of some Dandilion root too, since they say it can help decrease BP too.... For the record, it's not too high, just a lil bit.... It was 154/104.... As you can see I don't like the bottom number at all.... Thing is, as soon as I come off AAS, it goes back down to like 112/70, so I wanted to avoid going to the doctor..... I'm not bulking up either, I'm Endomorphic, so I'm pretty much always dieting and eating lower clean calories.... I do TONS of cardio, along with my lifting, so the only place I can look is to supplements..... This is the last week of my cycle, so I'm not too worried at the moment, but I'm thinking ahead to my next cycle..... Just wanna be prepared, cause no matter which AAS I use, I always seem to get higher BP..... Water retaining drugs or not, my BP goes up..... It runs in my family, what can you do? Thanks for all the replies.... Seems like Vitamins E and C, Potassium and Magnessium, Garlic, and that Hawthorn berry are the top reccomendations I've found tonight doing searches.....
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njmuscleguy
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FYI (taken from http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-049o.shtml )
Ginger—reduces cholesterol, prevents blood clots, is an anti-inflammatory, and has chemical components that are calcium antagonists, vasodilators, and ACE inhibitors
Ginger (Zingiber officinale) is reliable in treating a wide variety of cardiovascular complaints. Among ginger's protective properties is its ability to reduce cholesterol by promoting cholesterol excretion, impairing cholesterol absorption, and encouraging bile secretion and bile acid production. (Bile acid is a steroid acid of bile, produced during the metabolism of cholesterol.) Ginger exerts some of its hypolipidemic effects by stimulating cholesterol-7-alpha-hydroxylase, a rate-limiting enzyme of bile acid synthesis (Srinivasan et al. 1991).
Researchers reported the effects of administering ginger (200 mg/kg orally) to 61 cholesterol-fed rabbits (Bhandari et al. 1998). The marked rise in cholesterol, triglycerides, lipoproteins, and phospholipids (which normally follows 10 weeks of cholesterol feeding) was significantly reduced by ginger. The favorable results obtained from ginger were comparable to the hypolipidemic effects of the drug Lopid, known generically as gemfibrozil.
Various chemicals contained in ginger are calcium antagonists, vasodilators, ACE inhibitors, and diuretics, suggesting additional value in reducing blood pressure and the incidence of arrhythmias (Duke Database 1992).
Ginger reduces the likelihood of a blood clot through the following mechanisms:
Ginger, ginkgo, olive leaf, and garlic each contain chemicals that inhibit platelet-activating factor, PAF (Duke Database 1992). Adequate amounts of PAF are essential to coagulation and inflammatory processes; excesses are associated with blood clot formation, stroke, and heart disease.
Thromboxane A-2, a platelet-aggregating factor, is inhibited more by ginger than by either garlic or onions (Srivas 1984).
Prostacylin, an inhibitor of platelet aggregation, is pressed into service by ginger, a process that further reduces the likelihood of blood clot formation (Backon 1986).
Although all of these effects are similar (blood clot reduction), a study involving healthy volunteers showed no irregularities in blood coagulation among participants receiving 2 grams of ginger a day (McCaleb et al. 2000). Nonetheless, caution is indicated for those individuals with baseline disturbances in platelet numbers or prothrombin time. Furthermore, the activity of prescribed blood thinners may be heightened if used in concert with ginger.
Ginger also appears to protect the heart during periods of inflammation. (Recall that inflammation is considered a trigger in heart disease.) Ginger's anti-inflammatory properties are due to interruption of the prostaglandin-leukotriene cascade, blocking damaging prostaglandins but leaving beneficial prostaglandins unaffected. Ginger root (gingerols) has been shown to inhibit cyclooxygenase pathways, sharing anti-inflammatory traits with other popular COX-2 inhibitors (Newmark et al. 2000; Faloon 2001).
A preventive dose of ginger is one to two 300-mg capsules 1-3 times a day. Interestingly, a researcher recently recommended 10 grams (approximately 1 tsp a day) to reduce platelet aggregation (Bordia et al. 1997). A qualified healthcare practitioner must monitor this dosage. JAMA published an article raising a cautionary flag concerning the risk of cardiovascular events among users of COX-2 inhibitors (such as Celebrex and Vioxx) (Mukherjee et al. 2001). The FDA has also objected to claims and promotional activities by Pharmacia Corporation minimizing the potentially serious risk of bleeding associated with Celebrex (Fort 2001). It is hoped further prospective evaluations will characterize and determine the magnitude of the risks. In the interim, natural COX-2 inhibitors (including ginger) loom as welcome alternatives.
Ginger—reduces cholesterol, prevents blood clots, is an anti-inflammatory, and has chemical components that are calcium antagonists, vasodilators, and ACE inhibitors
Ginger (Zingiber officinale) is reliable in treating a wide variety of cardiovascular complaints. Among ginger's protective properties is its ability to reduce cholesterol by promoting cholesterol excretion, impairing cholesterol absorption, and encouraging bile secretion and bile acid production. (Bile acid is a steroid acid of bile, produced during the metabolism of cholesterol.) Ginger exerts some of its hypolipidemic effects by stimulating cholesterol-7-alpha-hydroxylase, a rate-limiting enzyme of bile acid synthesis (Srinivasan et al. 1991).
Researchers reported the effects of administering ginger (200 mg/kg orally) to 61 cholesterol-fed rabbits (Bhandari et al. 1998). The marked rise in cholesterol, triglycerides, lipoproteins, and phospholipids (which normally follows 10 weeks of cholesterol feeding) was significantly reduced by ginger. The favorable results obtained from ginger were comparable to the hypolipidemic effects of the drug Lopid, known generically as gemfibrozil.
Various chemicals contained in ginger are calcium antagonists, vasodilators, ACE inhibitors, and diuretics, suggesting additional value in reducing blood pressure and the incidence of arrhythmias (Duke Database 1992).
Ginger reduces the likelihood of a blood clot through the following mechanisms:
Ginger, ginkgo, olive leaf, and garlic each contain chemicals that inhibit platelet-activating factor, PAF (Duke Database 1992). Adequate amounts of PAF are essential to coagulation and inflammatory processes; excesses are associated with blood clot formation, stroke, and heart disease.
Thromboxane A-2, a platelet-aggregating factor, is inhibited more by ginger than by either garlic or onions (Srivas 1984).
Prostacylin, an inhibitor of platelet aggregation, is pressed into service by ginger, a process that further reduces the likelihood of blood clot formation (Backon 1986).
Although all of these effects are similar (blood clot reduction), a study involving healthy volunteers showed no irregularities in blood coagulation among participants receiving 2 grams of ginger a day (McCaleb et al. 2000). Nonetheless, caution is indicated for those individuals with baseline disturbances in platelet numbers or prothrombin time. Furthermore, the activity of prescribed blood thinners may be heightened if used in concert with ginger.
Ginger also appears to protect the heart during periods of inflammation. (Recall that inflammation is considered a trigger in heart disease.) Ginger's anti-inflammatory properties are due to interruption of the prostaglandin-leukotriene cascade, blocking damaging prostaglandins but leaving beneficial prostaglandins unaffected. Ginger root (gingerols) has been shown to inhibit cyclooxygenase pathways, sharing anti-inflammatory traits with other popular COX-2 inhibitors (Newmark et al. 2000; Faloon 2001).
A preventive dose of ginger is one to two 300-mg capsules 1-3 times a day. Interestingly, a researcher recently recommended 10 grams (approximately 1 tsp a day) to reduce platelet aggregation (Bordia et al. 1997). A qualified healthcare practitioner must monitor this dosage. JAMA published an article raising a cautionary flag concerning the risk of cardiovascular events among users of COX-2 inhibitors (such as Celebrex and Vioxx) (Mukherjee et al. 2001). The FDA has also objected to claims and promotional activities by Pharmacia Corporation minimizing the potentially serious risk of bleeding associated with Celebrex (Fort 2001). It is hoped further prospective evaluations will characterize and determine the magnitude of the risks. In the interim, natural COX-2 inhibitors (including ginger) loom as welcome alternatives.
schneiderc2004
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Yeah try Hawthorne Berry, ginger, and the brand "Garlique"...it works for my mom! 
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Mr.X
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Prizz said:
For BP try: Garlic, saffron and valerian. I saw some ginger suggestions here, that's also good.
Shedding water, will help lower your BP.
repost of some diuretics...
Natural OTC diuretics:
vitamin C, dandelion root, glycerin, potassium, and caffeine
Most "water" pills are just vitamin C and caffeine.
Use distilled water, and increase your intake of it daily.
Most guy can get rid of bloat with just some potassium, vit C and water.
Here is a Potssium Article that might help you understand how bad potassium deficiency can be for you.
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Mr.X
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njmuscleguy said:
good call here bro...
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Mr.X
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HumanTarget said:
are you on a cycle?
blacksabbath1987
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non-flush niaicin and red yeast rice extract. lowers chl/Mr.X said:
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Mr.X
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HumanTarget said:
you using any anti-Es, like arimidex, letrozole or aromasin?
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Mr.X
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HumanTarget said:
A few posts above, I suggest you try a natural diuretic remedy as a start.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6256269&postcount=11
On top of that, drop the anadrol and add an anti-e like letrozole or arimidex to your cycle. You have experience with anti-e's before? are you gyno/estrogen prone?
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Mr.X
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HumanTarget said:
lol, well you need to get on some anti-Es asap. when did you first notice the gyno symptoms?
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Mr.X
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HumanTarget said:
It sounds like you might have prolactin related gyno. You can try adding some letrozole and dostinex to your cycle. Letro will help keep your test bloat down and the dostinex will help with prolactin sides. If your gyno is bad from tren, you might want to consider lowering dosages.
