HGH with IGF-1

[d_o_c_]

Has anyone ever read this? Anyone agree? Disagree?

The leading studies in this area: (Ney, 1999, Yarasheski, 1994.... Am J. App. Phys.)
In the Yarasheski study, no increase in lean muscle mass was noticed in the subjects using GH alone, but significant gains were found in subjects that supplemented with IGF and GH...add in the steroids and look out! Yarasheski studied weight trained athletes, supplementing one group with GH alone, and one group with GH and IGF. "So IGF-1 alone does not promote such effects. (Leanness and increased lean mass) Nor does GH. It appears the combination of the two most consistently lead to increased protein synthesis." Both seem to negatively downregulate the other over time, so as to lead to diminishing returns. Cycling would be in order for that reason. Also supplementing both is necessary because one or the other alone will suppress the natural production of the non-supplemented Latest study by Yarashevski - with GH alone...8 to 12% change in lean body composition. 6% increase in muscle mass.

 

[steelmass]

My friend that has been in the game for a while and competes on the national level told me about this. Interesting.

 

[drrman]

I can tell you from experience that combining the two compounds is something REMARKABLE!!!! im not kidding, it is a fantastic combo. made great changes in the way i looked....BUT.....if you thing you have bad sides from HGH...such as hands numb, aching, etc....when you add IGF to HGH...BE READY....its HORRIBLE i tell you, it magnified the HGH sided by 10. My hands hurt so bad at night i had to sleep backwards and have my face on the corner of my bed so my arms could hang down towards the floor and allow blood to flow to my fingers so they didn't go so numb they hurt!

 

[informed09]

I can tell you from experience that combining the two compounds is something REMARKABLE!!!! im not kidding, it is a fantastic combo. made great changes in the way i looked....BUT.....if you thing you have bad sides from HGH...such as hands numb, aching, etc....when you add IGF to HGH...BE READY....its HORRIBLE i tell you, it magnified the HGH sided by 10. My hands hurt so bad at night i had to sleep backwards and have my face on the corner of my bed so my arms could hang down towards the floor and allow blood to flow to my fingers so they didn't go so numb they hurt!

What kind of doses were you running? Can you be a little more specific on the changes to your body

 

[drrman]

What kind of doses were you running? Can you be a little more specific on the changes to your body

i was taking 10iu vial of hgh over three days...so 3.33 iu's HGH per day, and 100mcg of media grade IGF per day.

I personally think people need to take at least 60-80mcg of the media grade IGF to get teh best effects...this 20mcg shit is a waste of time and money.

As for the effects, i leaned out quicker, got a HELL of a lot stronger and gained about 10 lbs when i added the IGF...and i've been cycling for many years, so for me to gain 10lbs is remarkable....id say the combo put on at least 6-8 lbs of quality muscle mass....