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So resisitance (weight train) on an empty stomach after HGH injection in the AM?? What if i were to do fasted steady state cardio in the AM and train at night with my lifts???
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billfred
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I think the call is HGH in the morning on empty stomach regardless (irregardless).
You want to mimic your bodies natural pulsation, so do an injection when you first wake up, and then at least three hours apart thereafter. I do the following to get my 4iu's per day:
Wake Up 4am - 1iu
PWO 7am - 1iu
Pre-lunch - 11am - 1iu
Pre-dinner - 6pm - 1iu
Wake Up 4am - 1iu
PWO 7am - 1iu
Pre-lunch - 11am - 1iu
Pre-dinner - 6pm - 1iu
billfred
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I would go broke injecting that much and I am not a poor man.
It's a lot of injections for a day too.. That would be challenging to manage during the work week for me
I only ever did 2iu's a day and did it in one shot.
billfred
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yeah and doing it on an empty stomach - like I would have that happen 4 times during the day.
It doesn't have to be on an empty stomach for every shot. If your meals are spaced every 3 hours and you do it pre-meal it's good enough. The objective is to mimic your bodies natural pulsation which you benefit from if you do several times per day in smaller doses versus one large dose.
My goal is different - I'm 36, this isn't HRT for me I'm doing this while on cycle. I have 800iu's - almost done with the first 400iu's, will do some PCT and continue my HGH and then blast in another month or so with the second round of 400iu's. I'm only taking 4iu's a day.
My goal is different - I'm 36, this isn't HRT for me I'm doing this while on cycle. I have 800iu's - almost done with the first 400iu's, will do some PCT and continue my HGH and then blast in another month or so with the second round of 400iu's. I'm only taking 4iu's a day.
Ft.. I'm curious what your results have been?
Pure awesomeness, just look at me! Maybe its skewed my fashion sense a little but that could be because i'm coming off my cycle and hormones are out of whack.
Lol I love the shoes! Wait till you see the ones I'm going to get!! 
you noticed a difference though? I've heard mixed reviews from the under 40, already in shape crowd...
you noticed a difference though? I've heard mixed reviews from the under 40, already in shape crowd...Lol I love the shoes! Wait till you see the ones I'm going to get!!
For fat loss definitely a big difference, i think still too early to tell with muscle gain. Recovery is good and sleep is ok, but I have a 4yo and 2yo that like to interrupt my sleep so i'm not the best judge of that.
frankcastle29
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BRILLIANT!!! u mean do kipping pullups and ultra high rep olympic lifts, the way they were meant to be done ROTFLMAO
Putting the discussion of HGH aside for the moment, (since we already have posted the protocol for first thing AM), if your goal is FAT loss then do your workouts in a fasted state. That means no calories of any kind.
Protein, carbs, fats, etc.. all cause the body to release insulin. To varying degrees, but the fact is that insulin is still released. What happens when insulin is present in the body? Fat loss comes to a screeching halt.
If you want to lose fat, do your cardio/workouts in a fasted state and wait at least an hour post work out before having ANYTHING with calories in it. No post work shake, no protein, nothing.
Two things to remember :
1 - Carbs are the greatest enemy of HGH as they basically rendered it useless since it can not be utilized and passed across where it can exhibit it's benefits.
2 - Insulin is the greatest enemy of fat loss. If you are trying to gain weight and bulk, then have a pre and post workout shake or energy drink. The insulin release will make sure you eliminate any fat burning prospects and store the calories/nutrients in the body.
billfred
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I am old. Sometimes you need that energy drink just to get you to the gym.
I am not fat but let's face it, I don't do cardio for the fun of it. I get your point though. I went into the workout this morning in a fasted state. Will see if it makes a difference.
I am having my energy drink at the office. I pity my co-workers.
if you need energy then try black coffee. no sugar (obviously) and no cream. use aspartime (sp?) to sweeten it if you need to.
frankcastle29
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How bout coffee , and zero carb ispopure with 50 grams of protein in the AM accompanied by the HGH ?/ i would think with no carbs it would be fine, just wondering because it isnt always going to work for me to hang out for an hour after HGH , i just have to get outta the house cuz i dont really like the crib that much just gotta roll out
Food of any kind, carbs, protein, fat.... is going to cause insulin to be released. Insulin will completely kill any fat loss your body is conducting at the time. In addition to the protein drawing blood to the stomach area as it is needed for digestion to take place and it won't be available to the muscles when you are trying to pump as much blood into the area you are training as possible.
frankcastle29
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coffee but no cream or sugar. use aspartimine (sp?)
Did I miss where he someone said they are diabetic?
If your going to illicit an insulin response no matter what I'd rather have calories in the form my body knows what to do with.
Pre-cardio, fasted, I drink my coffee black but if I use a sweetener it's coconut crystals.
If your going to illicit an insulin response no matter what I'd rather have calories in the form my body knows what to do with.
Pre-cardio, fasted, I drink my coffee black but if I use a sweetener it's coconut crystals.
