Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I am just turning 20 on friday the fourth and i am 150 lbs. I bench around 235 for my max and i am well defined. i wanted to push it to the next limit but i wanted te get some advice. i was going to take a cycle of sustanon and see what happens but i didn't know if this is smart or not. please help me out with a little advice.
help with my first cycle
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Nutri-Wrestler
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dont do sust, hard to maintain blood levels. go with enanthate at 500mg/week.
how long have you been lifting? are you stuck at a wall?
how long have you been lifting? are you stuck at a wall?
wartime100
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I agree with running eth instead. It is also cheaper. A bottle of qv eth and a bottle of ttokyo deca always seems to be a good beginners 10 week cycle.
THEEGAME2544
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Yeah, how long have you been lifting? If your just starting out or have been doing it off and on for a while I would say wait a little while until you reach a plateu in your gains. If you have reached that plateu, then you could consider running a test dbol cycle to start. Run test at 500/wk for 8 weeks and run dbol at 30mg/day for weeks 1-5. You should see some big gains seeing as it's your first cycle, but do some research to prepare....make sure your taking all the right supplements with it Flax seed oil, Glutamine etc...and make sure your diet is in good shape.
my diet is pretty good. i eat a lot of protein. i have hit sort of a plateau but it is the kind that i keep getting stronger but i am not really gaining a lot more weight or i am not really getting a lot bigger. my max bench is like 235 and my max curls are like 110 and my max skull crushers is like 80. i am strong for my size but i am also worried about the side effects for the cycle as well. I am familiar with sust and a lot of my friends have done it but you guys are recommmending others i have never researched. do they have major side effects?
oh and my height. i am 5'9" and i have been lifting faithfully during the school year for about almost four years now. i usually never do during the summer even though i say i will due to work and stuff. If you guys could tell me the side effects and such cause i am really worried about that and whatever else i should do i would appreciate it
Nutri-Wrestler
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How old are you?
Sust is a blend of 4 esters of testosterone
Enanthate is a single ester of testosterone.
Sust requires shot eod to maintain constant blood levels while enanthate only requires shots 2X per week
Sust is a blend of 4 esters of testosterone
Enanthate is a single ester of testosterone.
Sust requires shot eod to maintain constant blood levels while enanthate only requires shots 2X per week
Sorry bro, you are not even close to consider juice...150lbs?
If you don't do well as a natural, you won't do well as a juicer.
Sure you'll gain well the first couple of cycles but the mistakes that you are making now, you will never learn from.
Get up to 180lbs naturally...that's not so hard. If you are 150lbs after 4 years of training something is wrong...figure out what's wrong and fix it!!!
If you don't do well as a natural, you won't do well as a juicer.
Sure you'll gain well the first couple of cycles but the mistakes that you are making now, you will never learn from.
Get up to 180lbs naturally...that's not so hard. If you are 150lbs after 4 years of training something is wrong...figure out what's wrong and fix it!!!
You guys think that sust is not good and i should just take that other stuff you mentioned. I want to do the safest thing so i am trying to research it and i don't know if starting too early on juice will hurt my potential after i get off them for regular gains. let me know. I AM turning 20 ON FRIDAY SO this is why I'M worried and WHAT ARE THE SIDE EFFECTS?
Nutri-Wrestler
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Side effects are the same no matter what type of test and ester you get, its all test. Side effects include: loos of hair if you are genetically predisposed to Male patter baldness, Testicular atrophy, acne, virrilization in women, abnormal hair growth, rapid weight gain.
MoreBeefPlease
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do more research bud. if you don't know the side effects of a substance that is the base to just about everybody's cycle you have some more homework to do. and why is turning 20 suck a big deal. your ready for juice when your READY for juice(enough gym time, knowledge, maturity both mentally and physically) it is not like a drinking age. IMO
jc21
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listen bro....in AS there is no safe thing to take. everything has the potential to hurt you. almost all the tests are gonna do the same damage to your body. so test enanthate and sust are gonna hurt you the same. but at a low dosage enanthate will work better.
i dont think you are ready for gear....you only weigh 150 pounds and are only 20 barely. you could gain 20 pounds in the next year naturally. and dont think you are as strong as you can get naturally. 235 really isnt that much .....i train with a dude that is your age and weighs less, but he puts up over 300 on bench and he is natural.
i dont think you are ready for gear....you only weigh 150 pounds and are only 20 barely. you could gain 20 pounds in the next year naturally. and dont think you are as strong as you can get naturally. 235 really isnt that much .....i train with a dude that is your age and weighs less, but he puts up over 300 on bench and he is natural.
