Help with IGF-1 (R3-long)

[hard_core_jr]

I am thinking of trying IGF-1 (R3-long). Has anyone had any experience with it?

What I am wanting to know is:

The duration of therapy and dose!
What kind of side affects if any!
Is there a problem with aggression?

 

[hard_core_jr]

Bumb for a little help!


I can’t believe none of the people on this board have used this stuff.

 

[Zyglamail]

IGF-1 r3long looks to be very promising. Dosing looks to be very individual and vary from as little as 20mcg per day to 100mcg per day. IGF-1 seems to offer all the benefits of GH without some of the sides. As with all hormones however our bodies do have a feedback mechanism and benefits from IGF-1 dwindle to nill after about 4 weeks of use which would mean ideal cycle length appears to be about 4 weeks. It apparently can be injected either IM or subq. This is a topic of interest to me as well I just have enough time to cover all that interests me

 

[hard_core_jr]

Zyg, thank you for the input.

I have been looking for something to take it to the next level and IGF-1 looks like it might be what I am looking for. I have been bodybuilding for 10 years and using AS for 6 years. My problem is I have really noticed over the last 2 years that my body does not respond to the AS like it use to, so as a result I have been using (IMO) high amounts of AS to try and make gains. Also I am older now and that might have something to do with poor responds to AS. To give you a little background when I started training I was 5’11” 135lb and 12% BF. I am now 5’11” 194lb and 4.6% BF. I have been stuck at this size for 2 years and I am beginning to think I have found my genetic limit. I am hoping IGF-1 will help me break the 200lb mark.

Thanks again!

 

[Zyglamail]

IGF-1 appears to be the key player in muscle growth. It stimulates both the differentiation and proliferation of myoblasts. It also stimulates amino acid uptake and protein synthesis in muscle and other tissues. So, IGF-1 can likely allow those who have reached their genetic potential to actually continue to grow based on proliferation and differentation alone. Some studies have shown a 15% increase in muscle mass with no exercise which is quite remarkable.

 

[hard_core_jr]

I am going to give it a shot! Do you think I should use it with AS?

 

[Zyglamail]

Well, the body seems to downregulat hgh production and in turn igf-! production after about 4 weeks. I think if I were to give it a whirl I would run it post cycle sometime for 4 weeks to see if I could maintain or even add more mass and drop a few lbs. If you combine it with certain AAS like tren, which increases igf-1 output in itself you may find your body reduces igf-1 output sooner than 4 weeks. Just my opinion, but if it were me I would want to run it alone so I could truely see/feel the effects it has.

 

[hard_core_jr]

Good point! I will let you know how it works for me.

 

[Italianboy]

Sorry bro,but are you sure you will get the real IGF-1?
I think it's almost impossible...well I've seen many times in black market but it's fake like shit.I don't think you can get some good if you aren't buying it stright from the manufacturer.
BE carefull!

 

[ironmaster]

Yes, 10 to 20 mcg per day, 4 week cycle is ideal. I would use it with GH, and insulin. Freeze what you don't use......in fact it should come refrigerated to be sure it is effective, pretty delicate stuff. Yarasheski's landmark studies on GH found the most lean mass gains ocurred with GH/igf-1 stacked, due to the synergy.

 

[notpuff]

IGF-1 r3long looks to be very promising. Dosing looks to be very individual and vary from as little as 20mcg per day to 100mcg per day. IGF-1 seems to offer all the benefits of GH without some of the sides. As with all hormones however our bodies do have a feedback mechanism and benefits from IGF-1 dwindle to nill after about 4 weeks of use which would mean ideal cycle length appears to be about 4 weeks. It apparently can be injected either IM or subq. This is a topic of interest to me as well I just have enough time to cover all that interests me

zyg i read on threads that igf sucks and is dangerous is it true

 

[hard_core_jr]

Italianboy

Yes I am sure it is the real deal! I have a very reliable friend and I have never heard of him giving out junk. If I don’t get any results then I am out $250. I have lost more than that to customs. Thanks for the heads up though.

 

[hard_core_jr]

Ironmaster

Did you have any side affects from it? I am concerned about aggression. I just ended my fina after three weeks of 100mg ED because I was starting to loose it. I have never had aggression like that in the past not even when I was dropping three A-50’s ED and 1000mg of sust. Per week. The fina just really F’s with me and I am one of thoses guys who has always said 80% of aggression is in your head.

 

[Zyglamail]

zyg i read on threads that igf sucks and is dangerous is it true

igf does suck and there seems to be a common misconception in this thread that that is what we are talking about, we are not talking standard run of the mill igf-1 which is unstable and binds to all the wrong places, we are talking about a specific version of igf-1, which is igf-1 r3long. It does not have the same binding characteristics of standard igf-1 and therefor can be used in much much smaller doses (ie mcg's ed as opposed to mg's per day). It can be suspended in a solution for easy dosing and is highly stable in the proper solution.

Hard core, if your getting it from where I think your getting it, it should be the real deal and I would have no worries bro.

 

[Italianboy]

Italianboy

Yes I am sure it is the real deal! I have a very reliable friend and I have never heard of him giving out junk. If I don’t get any results then I am out $250. I have lost more than that to customs. Thanks for the heads up though.

Sure bro,but I'll be suspicious with everybody!
Remeber that Igf-1:
-Has to be kept at low temperature;
-Has to be handled with extreme attention:if you shock it a little it become a waste.
-I suppose you are buying the powder:be carefull when you add the steril water.Mix them very carefully and very very low.

Good luck bro and let us know how it works

 

[hard_core_jr]

Zyg

Yes I am getting it from our trust worthy friend. I am not too worried, he has always been on the up and up with me.




Italianboy

I don’t think we are talking about the same compound. Read Zyg’s post above about igf-1 r3long.

 

[Italianboy]

I know what I am saying.Do a try and if it works I'll be very happy too().
I've seen that stuff from Sigma Labs.
Keep us posted.

 

[notpuff]

the kit man carries it also

 

[notpuff]

zyg does the kit man carry it i saw it on the a list

 

[Zyglamail]

zyg does the kit man carry it i saw it on the a list

Yes, and I believe he is working on suspending it in solution for easy dosing. There will however still be extra steps prior to injecting.

 

[notpuff]

gotta love that kit man zyg lemme ask u the kit man said injectable andro wirth liquidex wil lactually work good whats ur opinion

 

[Zyglamail]

gotta love that kit man zyg lemme ask u the kit man said injectable andro wirth liquidex wil lactually work good whats ur opinion

To be honest I dont follow prohormones at all so I dont really know.

 

[notpuff]

would igf-1 give benefits to be taken alone i know gh wont do anything aloen is igf-1 diff