help with english please

[Manu]

Does this 2 sentences mean the same?

1 - "In spite of having a bad mark, he studied hard"

2 - "In spite of studying hard, he had a bad mark"

 

[Bullit]

if you are trying to convey the same idea in both then no2 is the better one.
It basically says "Even though that mofo studied his nuts off, he shit the bed and failed that fucker".

 

[WODIN]

They both have the same meaning manu.

 

[Ffactor]

Another interpretation, even though the mofo studies hard he is as stupid as HGPooperdooper and therefore will be limited to being a janitor or a toll booth operator for the rest of his godforesaken life!!

 

[Manu]

Thank you guys, you're great

 

[Bullit]

They both have the same meaning manu.

No 2 is much less ambiguous.
In fact no.1 could be interpreted as "the punk had a shitburger grade, yet he continued to study like a fucker".

What Idea are you trying to communicate manu?

 

[TheProject]

No 2 is much less ambiguous.
In fact no.1 could be interpreted as "the punk had a shitburger grade, yet he continued to study like a fucker".

What Idea are you trying to communicate manu?

 

[Bullit]

In fact I will now state:
THEY DO NOT CONVEY THE SAME THING.


Put that in your pipe and smoke it Project, you jizzeater.

 

[TerraNoble]

Does this 2 sentences mean the same?

1 - "In spite of having a bad mark, he studied hard"

2 - "In spite of studying hard, he had a bad mark"

Assuming that he studied for an exam but ended up with a bad mark, sentence one is incorrect.

Sentence two would be better if "had" were replaced by "made" or "received".

PS>Are u from Slovakia?

 

[Manu]

No 2 is much less ambiguous.
In fact no.1 could be interpreted as "the punk had a shitburger grade, yet he continued to study like a fucker".

What Idea are you trying to communicate manu?

I just thought the first one could mean something like: The guy had a bad mark still he is studying (after receiving the bad mark).

 

[Bullit]

I just thought the first one could mean something like: The guy had a bad mark still he is studying (after receiving the bad mark).

Exactly.

And 2 means: Even though he studied hard he got a bad mark.

 

[Manu]

Re: Re: help with english please

PS>Are u from Slovakia?

No, not really.
If you're refering to my signature you have to try harder
Still that won't give you a clue about the place i am from.

 

[GinNJuice]

Does this 2 sentences mean the same?

1 - "In spite of having a bad mark, he studied hard"

2 - "In spite of studying hard, he had a bad mark"

Though, I think you get your point across, niether sentence is correct.

In the first one "having" is present tense and "studied" is past tense..... yet, I believe you wanted the opposite.

In the second, "studying" is present tense and "had" is past tense, ...... again, I believe you intened the opposite.

I think a more correct sentence would be as follows:

"Though he received a bad mark, he continues to study hard"

or

"In spite of receiving a bad mark, he continues to study hard"

 

[Bullit]

Re: Re: help with english please

In the second, "studying" is present tense and "had" is past tense, ...... again, I believe you intened the opposite.

"Studying" isn't nesessarily (sp????) present tense.
eg: I had been studying hard last year, yet I still failed.
Studying is modified by the context and I think that the "In spite of" modifies it to mean past tense.

 

[GinNJuice]

Re: Re: Re: help with english please

"Studying" isn't nesessarily (sp????) present tense.
eg: I was studying hard last year.
Studying is modified by the context and I think that the "In spite of" modifies it to mean past tense.

I do not wish to match wits with half man, half amazing.....

But, that's the kind of grammer that HI uses. Nuff said

 

[Bullit]

Yeah... the more I think about it the more HIesque it becomes.

Gin: 1
Bullit: 0

 

[Warik]

The two sentences do not mean the same thing.

"In spite of purchasing a Mercedes, he had a low income."

"In spite of his low income, he was still able to purchase a Mercedes."

Sentence #1 makes no sense. The two clauses are not related. His income has nothing to do with the car he purchased, so he can't do anything "in spite" of it.

Sentence #2, on the other hand, does make sense. His income has much to do with whether or not he can purchase a Mercedes. His low income suggests that he cannot, but IN SPITE of it, he bought it.

Same as your sentence #2: The mark one gets on a test is partially based on how hard he studies. This person studied hard, yet he got a low score - IN SPITE of the fact that he studied hard.

Sentence #1 does not mean the same thing as sentence #2 - and it's improperly written to boot.

-Warik