Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have been doing a lot of reading into this subject lately I have been working out for about 4 years and am looking to start a newbie cycle and from what I have read I think I want to primarily use deca (mainly because of the hair thinning issue seems everyone says this is the easiest on the hairline) Now my question is should I also use something else? I really don’t want to use more than two things if possible and I was thinking of a 10 to 12 week cycle I'm 6 foot and weight 200 pounds how much should I do a week? Thanks in advance.
Help with a newbie cycle
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Big Johnson
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Decca and winny for leaner gains.
Decca and test or dbol for bulk.
I wouldn't go higher than 400mg/week of decca for your first time out, though some will say more.
400mg/week decca, 50mg/day winny would be a solid first cycle.
Decca and test or dbol for bulk.
I wouldn't go higher than 400mg/week of decca for your first time out, though some will say more.
400mg/week decca, 50mg/day winny would be a solid first cycle.
Big Johnson
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If you have the propensity to lose your hair, ox might be a better choice for you. Chances are you will have to deal with it eventually regaurdless of what AS you use.
Big Anaconda
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Winstrol is hard on your hair because like dbol it is a form of dihydrotestosterone. However i have had no problem with dbol, try using saw palmetto and nizoral shampoo if worried about this.
I would definatly stack the deca with some test, seeing as your a newbie 250 mg of sus should see excellent results.
I would definatly stack the deca with some test, seeing as your a newbie 250 mg of sus should see excellent results.
Ok, so far it seems to be a toss up between these products deca EQ, avanar, and a couple people have said test - sust, but arent the test products hard on your hair? lets say i only wanted to at the most use two products which two are a good to start with i currently use saw palmetto on my hair in the form of american crew products i will in addidtion be adding nizoral once i start the cycle.
now that im thinking about it what would you guys think about this
250 sust a week and 400mg of deca a week for 8 weeks also useing nizoral
now that im thinking about it what would you guys think about this
250 sust a week and 400mg of deca a week for 8 weeks also useing nizoral
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If it is a toss up between deca and eq I would go with the eq for the following reasons:
Deca shuts you down HARD. I have never used it but I have had a couple of friends have a hard time recovering post cycle.
EQ is easy to recover from. The gains are slow but steady and largly permanent. No bloat, and you get that really hard vascular look. The only sides I get from eq are tiny zits on my shuolders and arms
If you have any possibility of being tested for steroids deca is traceable for up to 18 months
If it is a toss up between deca and eq I would go with the eq for the following reasons:
Deca shuts you down HARD. I have never used it but I have had a couple of friends have a hard time recovering post cycle.
EQ is easy to recover from. The gains are slow but steady and largly permanent. No bloat, and you get that really hard vascular look. The only sides I get from eq are tiny zits on my shuolders and arms
If you have any possibility of being tested for steroids deca is traceable for up to 18 months
Big Anaconda
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Correct
actually an EQ only cycle is a good one for a newbie, its very safe on the sides.
actually an EQ only cycle is a good one for a newbie, its very safe on the sides.
I end an eq cycle with clomid only. I start 17 days after my last injection and run it like this:
300mg day 1
100mg days 2-11
50mg days 12-21
Again what are your goals? The reason I ask is you are not going to gain 20# running eq alone. And it would suck if you ran something where you have no chance of getting what you want.
300mg day 1
100mg days 2-11
50mg days 12-21
Again what are your goals? The reason I ask is you are not going to gain 20# running eq alone. And it would suck if you ran something where you have no chance of getting what you want.
I’m looking to break through the plateau I am at and more importantly shed some fat and from what I have read it seems EQ is good for this purpose I’m trying to tone up more than bulk up on this cycle tone up. I'm defiantly looking at doing either just EQ or EQ with either deca or sust and ending it with clomid and Clen can some one help be decide between the deca and sust or neither? And how much clen should I use at the end? And once again thanks every for helping me with this. I was totally expecting to get flamed on this post.
Usually people either do EQ or Deca. Most of the time I see one of these combined with Test.
I have heard good things about EQ only cycles. It sounds like the way to go to reach your goals with little to no sides.
I am doing my first cycle now with Deca and Test enthanate. I have had great results with little to no sides also.
I have heard good things about EQ only cycles. It sounds like the way to go to reach your goals with little to no sides.
I am doing my first cycle now with Deca and Test enthanate. I have had great results with little to no sides also.
bigtex1125
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Don't know about the probation thing, but I would definately go with EQ only on your first cycle. You will get sufficient strength gains and lean up a little. EQ alone is an excellent choice for a first cycle, and it will let you look foreward to more complex cycles in the future. Good luck bro.
Texas Ranger
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I think you should still add Test to your cycle. Even if it's only 250-300mgs a week, in addition to your choice of EQ or Deca.
they say that deca can temporarily put "things out of order". I didn´t notice anything like that and I haven´t heard anyonelse either - some people has even claimed the opposite.
EQ can make you more horny - atleast in the beginning. it can reduce you sexdrive post cycle due to higher levels of estrogen - but this is easily cured with clomid or novaldex. But it´s not certain that you will notice any change at all. This is highly individual.
have a nice cycle bro...
EQ can make you more horny - atleast in the beginning. it can reduce you sexdrive post cycle due to higher levels of estrogen - but this is easily cured with clomid or novaldex. But it´s not certain that you will notice any change at all. This is highly individual.
have a nice cycle bro...
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