Help a newbie with his first cycle

[thebadguy54]

Hey Guys,

I'm 29 years old and I've been training since I was 16. I'm 5'-9" and I went from being a 140 lb. 16 yr. old to about 195 lbs right now. I was 205 lbs. in my early 20's and would like to be able to get to that weight again and stay at it. I've never taken any roids before.

Here's what I'm thinking for my first (and last?) cycle:
400 mg Test E for 10 weeks. Done.

Any help/suggestions/comments would be greatly appreciated, as would any suggestions as to what to run for PCT with/after the cycle.

TBG

 

[mikefear]

perfect. bump it to 500mg or 750 if you'd like, eat a ton of food, high protein...

during the cycle you'll want to use AIFM @ 2 pumps/day

for PCT run clomid @ 50mg a day for 21-28 days and continue AIFM and you should be fine.

good luck!

 

[jitc476]

Not trying to make waves, my first cycle was Test-E and Highly reccomend it, but...

"we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect. For the more advanced, Testosterone enanthate can either be taken alone or in combination with other compounds."
-gearprofiles.com
Mikefear are you saying they are incorrect?

 

[mikefear]

yes, I am saying that is the dumbest shit i've ever read.

 

[niv]

perfect. bump it to 500mg or 750 if you'd like, eat a ton of food, high protein...

during the cycle you'll want to use AIFM @ 2 pumps/day

for PCT run clomid @ 50mg a day for 21-28 days and continue AIFM and you should be fine.

good luck!

if you're gonna do 400mg you don't need the fucking AIFM.. fuck! just do pct

 

[Cutt29]

yes, I am saying that is the dumbest shit i've ever read.

LMAO!

 

[georgie2006]

if you're gonna do 400mg you don't need the fucking AIFM.. fuck! just do pct

absolutley WRONG!!!

he MAY need it. may not.


this is not one size fits all when it comes to hormone's

 

[DiamondCutCows]

yes, I am saying that is the dumbest shit i've ever read.

I'm gonna have to agree with MF on this one. I gotta go look at that site LOL. Poor noob is trying to research and they're confusing him even more

 

[niv]

absolutley WRONG!!!

he MAY need it. may not.


this is not one size fits all when it comes to hormone's

dont get me wrong AIFM is a great product but common people here are getting crazy with AIs.. its like you gotta do two pumps before you brush your teeth or take a shit.. let your body deal with the test at really low doses.. my very personal opinion which obviosly noone agrees with but thats cool

 

[leatherface]

My first cycle which I'm starting tonight or monda is very similiar

**10 weeks
>500mg test/week 250/monday and 250/thursday
1mg EOD arimidex
**Week 11-13
HCG(optional)
10mg nolva/day
>
**week 13-16
>PCT - start 3 weeks after end of cycle
>clomid
>week1 100mg/day 10mg nolva/day
>week2 50mg/day 10mg nolva/day
>week3 50mg/day 10mg nolva/day

Not sure how this will go as I haven't started yet but, I've been told it looks good.

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

i would only take the aifm if you start to bloat you may not need it but get some just in case and take 500mg of test E a week (1-10weeks) with a 3cc syringe ok mate

 

[SwolK]

Not trying to make waves, my first cycle was Test-E and Highly reccomend it, but...

"we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect. For the more advanced, Testosterone enanthate can either be taken alone or in combination with other compounds."
-gearprofiles.com
Mikefear are you saying they are incorrect?

like mike said, dumb quote.

400-500mg of test is fine for your first cycle, i would not run any higher.

AIFM and Clomid and you should be set

 

[MXEng10]

run 500 mg test e /week like MF said. Do it in two injections, I would spread it out maybe in 3 days, thats what I did on my first. You will start to feel a great pump by week 4 and good results by week 5, just make sure u train hard, eat a lot and eat clean, and have any kind of AI in hand if needed, AIFm will work. Also dont start ur cycle until u have all your PCT in hand.

HOLY ... post 100..... IM the king of the world!!!

 

[solidspine]

"we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect. For the more advanced, Testosterone enanthate can either be taken alone or in combination with other compounds."
-gearprofiles.com
Mikefear are you saying they are incorrect?

Yes that is incorrect,

actually nonsense.



Test E

with AIFM & PCT

is a great first cycle,

 

[dsh89]

Test-e 400-500mg ew for 10-12 weeks is perfect for a first cycle. That website quote is retarded. What exactly are "the weaker steroids"? Get some kind of AI incase you need it and get PCT in check. Eat big, train big, and sleep a lot. Oh and make time to crush ass becuase your libido should skyrocket lol.

 

[jitc476]

i would guess that they are referring to what everyone on this board makes fun of, like a d-bol only cycle. Am I the only one on this forum that sees that this advice came off of a giant link off of elitefitness's homepage? Im not a doctor and Im not saying i know more than any of you, but why would they say that, if there isnt some amount of logic in it.

hm....

 

[BigCracker]

Yes that is incorrect,

actually nonsense.



Test E

with AIFM & PCT

is a great first cycle,

Hey bro-don't argue. If it's on the internet it has to be fact right? Thank God I knew this otherwise I never could've had the chance to wire $8K to nigeria to pay for the release of 4.6 million I won in some foreign country's lottery I never entered. I'm just waiting on the funds to arrive any day...for 7 months now.

 

[thebadguy54]

Ok so here's my ?final? plan...

Week 1 to 10 - 500 mg Test E/week. 250 mg on Monday and 250 mg on Thursday.
Week 1 to 10 - 1 mg Arimidex EOD
Week 11 to 13 - 10 mg Nolva/day
Week 14 to 16 - PCT starts (3 weeks after end of cycle)
Week 14 100 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day
week 15 & 16 50 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day

Thanks a alot for your help guys!! I'm still wondering if I can do without the Arimidex.

 

[leatherface]

Ok so here's my ?final? plan...

Week 1 to 10 - 500 mg Test E/week. 250 mg on Monday and 250 mg on Thursday.
Week 1 to 10 - 1 mg Arimidex EOD
Week 11 to 13 - 10 mg Nolva/day
Week 14 to 16 - PCT starts (3 weeks after end of cycle)
Week 14 100 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day
week 15 & 16 50 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day

Thanks a alot for your help guys!! I'm still wondering if I can do without the Arimidex.

Looks very similiar . Might as well just get the Arimidex, can't hurt and no reason to take any chances...nice to have on hand anyhow.

 

[thebadguy54]

Looks very similiar . Might as well just get the Arimidex, can't hurt and no reason to take any chances...nice to have on hand anyhow.

It's pretty much a copy of yours. Keep me posted with your progress... I'll be about a month behind you.

Thanks.

 

[mikefear]

hey, jitc.. nice job trying to give me red, but you've got no karma you slack-jawed cocksucker..

guys, look at the comment he wrote in the negative karma field because of my post about the "test is only for super advanced gurus"....

User MIKEFEAR degrades other users, when they are simply giving information to a user asking for advice, in which was found off of a credible source OFF OF elitefitness.com. User MIKEFEAR had no right to degrade other users for efforts to help others

and btw, i didnt degrade you, i degraded that dumbfuck quote you tried to pass off as good information.. but here, i'll degrade you.. you noob fucktard, quit believing everything you read on supersteroids.net or where ever else it is you spend your time. now go call your mommy and daddy and tell them you were being bullied around on the internet.
ROFL.

Bomb this fool.

 

[mikefear]

^^^^ because of this:

Not trying to make waves, my first cycle was Test-E and Highly reccomend it, but...

"we recommend that steroid novices stay away from all testosterone compounds. To make it very clear: Those who have never taken steroids do not yet need any testosterone and should wait until later when the "weaker" steroids begin to have little effect. For the more advanced, Testosterone enanthate can either be taken alone or in combination with other compounds."
-gearprofiles.com
Mikefear are you saying they are incorrect?

yes, I am saying that is the dumbest shit i've ever read.

 

[solidspine]

Re: Help a newbie with his first cycle

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Ok so here's my ?final? plan...

Week 1 to 10 - 500 mg Test E/week. 250 mg on Monday and 250 mg on Thursday.
Week 1 to 10 - 1 mg Arimidex EOD
Week 11 to 13 - 10 mg Nolva/day
Week 14 to 16 - PCT starts (3 weeks after end of cycle)
Week 14 100 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day
week 15 & 16 50 mg Clomid/day and 10 mg Nolva/day

Thanks a alot for your help guys!! I'm still wondering if I can do without the Arimidex.

Looks great, and you could probably easily skip the arimidex, but it is nice to have it if gyno happens, witch I doubt.


The Novaldex should be more than enough when I think about it.

I don’t know what arimidex cost, I have always bought liquidex, which is a generic knock off for about 1/3 the price,

AIFM will work too,

Again the nolvedex is all you will really need, it is just nice on your first cycle to have everything

Oh that reminds me get your pins, etc also a head of time.

 

[solidspine]

Oh yeah I bet you 100 bucks this will not be your last cycle, my friend.

 

[solidspine]

I remember about 35 years ago after a couple of drinks,

saying something like oh alright,


I can just do ONE LINE.

 

[thebadguy54]

I remember about 35 years ago after a couple of drinks,

saying something like oh alright,


I can just do ONE LINE.

hahaha!! Only time will tell (if I do another cycle) I guess. Arimidex is expensive... I'll look into the cost of liquidex.

Thanks for your help!!

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

Hey Guys,

I'm 29 years old and I've been training since I was 16. I'm 5'-9" and I went from being a 140 lb. 16 yr. old to about 195 lbs right now. I was 205 lbs. in my early 20's and would like to be able to get to that weight again and stay at it. I've never taken any roids before.

Here's what I'm thinking for my first (and last?) cycle:
400 mg Test E for 10 weeks. Done.

Any help/suggestions/comments would be greatly appreciated, as would any suggestions as to what to run for PCT with/after the cycle.

TBG

seriously I love it when new guys do their reading and research and come out and say I have been training for a long time 5year+ and I am going to do my first cycle. I am going to do test and only test. That shit is so bomb....im like yeah bro...go fuckin get it!

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

seriously I love it when new guys do their reading and research and come out and say I have been training for a long time 5year+ and I am going to do my first cycle. I am going to do test and only test. That shit is so bomb....im like yeah bro...go fuckin get it!

Haha thats awesome how you worded that. I had a cycle written up similar to that but with EQ involved which I think I may drop. I think I may do some heavy research on a test E only cycle and get all my shit together PCT wise and 'dex for during cycle to be safe. Looks like a simple cycle to follow escpecially for first time users like me so I think im a try this one too at some point.

 

[thebadguy54]

Thanks again guys.

As far as pins go, should I get 22 or 23 gauge, 1 -1/2 inch, 3cc pins and alternate glutes and quads every day or week? I was thinking I could stick 250mg into my quads on Monday and 250mg in my glutes on Thursday? Or is there a better way?

I fuckin hate needles! I'm going to check out www.spotinjections.com when I get some time.