Help A Bro Out

[GORILA-UNIT]

Ok heres wat i have to work with for my second cycle. I'm 23 5"9 182 13%bf
for my first cycle i did 250mg test for like 16w n 200mg of eq. From my first experince with these drugs i've noticed my body reacts good to low n longer dosages. Now that being said this is wat i have to work with
4 bottles of test enath 250mg
2 bottles of deca 300mg
3 bottles of eq 200mg
all the proper pct, tons of nolv./clomid
Now my question is how to run this cycle. Whether i should do one long cycle or split it into 2. Just some feedback from the first cycle i had no problems commin off beside some emotional rollercoasters from the clomid. I also did use hcg for my first cycle so the pct was a brease. So that being said which cycle should i ran #1 or #2

#1:
w1-25 test enth 400mg
w1-20 deca 300mg
w8-23 eq 400mg
add in some hcg n proper pct

2:
split the drugs into 2 seperate cycles

please give me some advice based on ur experiences. I'm personaly leadin towards the first one but I'm open to all suggestions. Now just so u know my body reacts good to the 400mg of test, anymore my sides harsh go up, blood pressure goes up, can't sleep, increase of aggression. So I won't increase the dosages on the test over 400mg. thnx again

 

[c17]

how do you know your body reacts good to a low and longer cycle, it was your first one? but keep doing it till you stop seeing progress, i guess. i think # 2. 25 weeks of tests seems looong

 

[BIC]

Heres A Thought Build Your Cycle Then Buy Your Gear......
Not Flaming Bro Its Just A Hell Of Alot Easier That Way....

Bic

 

[Makavelli]

how do you know your body reacts good to a low and longer cycle, it was your first one? but keep doing it till you stop seeing progress, i guess. i think # 2. 25 weeks of tests seems looong

That's what I was thinking. I would personally split it up. I don't think the second cycle you've ever done in your life should be for 25 weeks. More like 12-16.

 

[GORILA-UNIT]

Bump

 

[oatsandgrains]

#1:
w1-25 test enth 400mg
w1-20 deca 300mg
w8-23 eq 400mg
add in some hcg n proper pct

25 weeks?? Are you retarted? Have fun bro! Way to do some serious research first...... Even though the doses are pretty mild you will still be shit down for nearly half a year!!! If anyone condones a retarted cycle like this one you should be kicked off elite. Why dont you pick up How to Build The Perfect Beast by L. Rea....I doubt you will but by the looks of the poor ass cycle you just wrote up for everyone to laugh at you should. It will save you money, save you health, and you will put on much better muscle. Go ahead flame me but god man do some research!!

 

[GORILA-UNIT]

#1:
w1-25 test enth 400mg
w1-20 deca 300mg
w8-23 eq 400mg
add in some hcg n proper pct

25 weeks?? Are you retarted? Have fun bro! Way to do some serious research first...... Even though the doses are pretty mild you will still be shit down for nearly half a year!!! If anyone condones a retarted cycle like this one you should be kicked off elite. Why dont you pick up How to Build The Perfect Beast by L. Rea....I doubt you will but by the looks of the poor ass cycle you just wrote up for everyone to laugh at you should. It will save you money, save you health, and you will put on much better muscle. Go ahead flame me but god man do some research!!

hey buddy if u ain't got nothing usefull to say, get off my thread n go fuck urself asshole

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

hey buddy if u ain't got nothing usefull to say, get off my thread n go fuck urself asshole

What he had to say is probably the best advise you'll get on this thread

 

[GORILA-UNIT]

its not wat he said, its how he said it. Anyone with a little bit of respect for others wouldn't talk like that. Like he is king shit n I'm just some pieace of shit hes talkin to. I'm sorry i can't stand igonorant self cntred idiots that r rude. I plain simply posted two cycles n asked the bros to tell me which one they prefere based on their experience. By all means im open to anyones suggestion as long as they r not insultin. Any constructive feedback is much apprieated

 

[StereOMaN]

Actually he did have something useful to say, useful just lacking a bit of class. You haven't done enough research, and should NOT be using if you are willing to haphazardly force your body with some Powerful f!@#ing drugs through a total transformation, without knowing exactly what you are doing. Like a semi-truck, powerful as hell but you don't take it out on the highway before you learn how to drive it. Throw those compounds in the closet, leave them for a year, you sound over eager so if you can't wait, at least two months, and read, hang out on the site, very useful info. Then come back with a plan that you can acknowledge the risks and potential pit falls and know exactly how you are going to counter them to walk away with the best solid gains and best health possible. Then when you post that next cycle proposal all the vets will jump in to help you fine tune it to perfection. Good Luck!

 

[GORILA-UNIT]

Actually he did have something useful to say, useful just lacking a bit of class. You haven't done enough research, and should NOT be using if you are willing to haphazardly force your body with some Powerful f!@#ing drugs through a total transformation, without knowing exactly what you are doing. Like a semi-truck, powerful as hell but you don't take it out on the highway before you learn how to drive it. Throw those compounds in the closet, leave them for a year, you sound over eager so if you can't wait, at least two months, and read, hang out on the site, very useful info. Then come back with a plan that you can acknowledge the risks and potential pit falls and know exactly how you are going to counter them to walk away with the best solid gains and best health possible. Then when you post that next cycle proposal all the vets will jump in to help you fine tune it to perfection. Good Luck!

thnx for the concern, I've been searching steroids over a year now so I've done my fair share of research, all I asked for is peoples preference of cycles. My first cycle was 5month long n as far as the pct it was a piece of cake. I came of with ease n kept 90% of my gains. This cycle im thinkin about goin the same amount or mayb a bit longer. I know what my body reacts good too. A lot of guys that I've talk 2 including some friends fo mine who r pros have told me depending on ur body sometimes doin longer cycles is better in terms of keeping gains. Now it does shut u down harder compare to some shorter cycle nothing that some hcg wouldn't take care of. Anyways I came here to learn so feel free to add some comments thnx

 

[Raffaz]

Split it into 2 cycles. 25 weeks is way to long, especially for a second cycle.

Mick

 

[growthspurt]

hey buddy if u ain't got nothing usefull to say, get off my thread n go fuck urself asshole

Here's the deal-
When you post a thread and ask for peoples opinions, that's what you're going to get. You have to take the good with the bad. If a bro takes a little jab @ you and you let everyone see it ruffles your feathers, you're opening the door to more flaming. Keep your sense of humor.

This Bro did offer you some good advice even though he called you a retard. How you responded to it doesn't lend much integrity to your threads. And as far as respect goes, that has to be earned here. Share some knowledge and show that you're willing to receive it, and respect will come over time. Just my opinion.

One more thing, if you really wanted to offer a comeback to this Bro, you should've told him, "If you're going to call people retards, you should at least know how to spell the word..............RETARD!"
Something to that effect might have scored you some Karma!

 

[wnt2bBeast]

first off im not flaming you
but you realize your first cycle was 450mg/wk..which is totally fine good for you for using a low dose and making gains..

now for your second your going from 450 to roughly over 1g of total gear..

second, theres nothing wrong with long cycles however youll need to change the gear so that the body doesnt become immune to its positive effects..
BUT i do not reccommend you use this long of a cycle for quite a few reasons.. your using gear you havent used before (youll have no idea how you react to this stuff) ..

heres how i look at it..youve got all this gear thats less stuff youll have to rder in the future and worry about LE busting down your door..
no need to use it all in one cycle..i would do this

run a test only cycle
500mg/wk 1-10
follow up with PCT

once youve recovered (thats doesnt mean as soon as you finish up pct)
run another cycle
test 500mg/wk 1-10
deca 300mg/wk 1-8
i would prefer to run the test 12 weeks and the deca 10 wks here but im using the gear you have (40mls of test)

 

[Ulter]

I won't tell you not to run a long cycle because my current cycle started in the summer of 2000.
But your plan is wrong. You WILL stop growing in the 10th week with that cycle. Your body will adapt and you will have reached the point at which those particular doses of those particular drugs will not push you any further beyond your genetic limit. If you're going to cycle that long you have two choices. You raise the doses or change the gear. I suggest you plan to change the gear AND go up if you're dead set on doing this long of a cycle. I would raise the test to 600mg in 11 and add the eq in 11. That will buy you about 4-5 more weeks. Then add tren in 16 and continue to 23.

 

[shawnerk]

thnx for the concern, I've been searching steroids over a year now so I've done my fair share of research

These guys have wayyyy more than a year of research. Take their advise- they know, dude. Don't tell anyone to fuck themselves or fuck off or anything and you'll get some good help and get to know good people. Good luck !

 

[GORILA-UNIT]

I won't tell you not to run a long cycle because my current cycle started in the summer of 2000.
But your plan is wrong. You WILL stop growing in the 10th week with that cycle. Your body will adapt and you will have reached the point at which those particular doses of those particular drugs will not push you any further beyond your genetic limit. If you're going to cycle that long you have two choices. You raise the doses or change the gear. I suggest you plan to change the gear AND go up if you're dead set on doing this long of a cycle. I would raise the test to 600mg in 11 and add the eq in 11. That will buy you about 4-5 more weeks. Then add tren in 16 and continue to 23.

the only reason i kept all the dosages the same through out the cycle is cause based on some brief research i figured u make the best gains with the most consistent blood levels n as u pyrimid up n down so does the blood levels n this factor increases the side effects. Wholly fuck u started summer of 2000 n u still goin huh, do u get blood works done regularly or wat. Thnx to all the bros that help me out

 

[wnt2bBeast]

the only reason i kept all the dosages the same through out the cycle is cause based on some brief research i figured u make the best gains with the most consistent blood levels n as u pyrimid up n down so does the blood levels n this factor increases the side effects. Wholly fuck u started summer of 2000 n u still goin huh, do u get blood works done regularly or wat. Thnx to all the bros that help me out

that holds true when running shorter 6-12ish week cycles..
long term cycles are a different animal

 

[Ulter]

the only reason i kept all the dosages the same through out the cycle is cause based on some brief research i figured u make the best gains with the most consistent blood levels n as u pyrimid up n down so does the blood levels n this factor increases the side effects. Wholly fuck u started summer of 2000 n u still goin huh, do u get blood works done regularly or wat. Thnx to all the bros that help me out

Yes I get my heart checked and regular blood work done.

I am not telling you to pyramid. That's never a good idea but was made popular back when I started in the early 80's.
I am saying you'll stall and need to change something to continue to grow.

 

[GORILA-UNIT]

bump

 

[GORILA-UNIT]

Bump

 

[Raffaz]

Bump for what?This has already been answered for you.

Mick