Help a 1st Time Buddy Out

[WannaBeBig72]

I've got a friend who wants to run his first cycle this summer. He's 34 has been training pretty seriouslly for 18 years. He's 5'8 175 at about 11% BF I'd say. He's basically been about the same size for 10 years. He wants to run a summer cycle. He wants go gain a decent amount of muscle and try to shred up at the same time (maybe get down to 8 or 9% if possible). I'm recommending he should run Test with either Tbol, Winny, or Anavar. Something like:

Test 500mgs week 1-10
either Anavar, Winstrol or Tbol. Anywhere between 1-6 weeks.
Adex .5 mgs ED

Also you think Nolva and Chlomid is enough here for PCT or should he have HCG as well?

Thanks all...

 

[bw1]

I would use HCG.

 

[immortalis]

sounds like youve got a decent handle on things really. *golf clap*

HCG would be nice, but not totally neccessary. Since its his first cycle and its nothing too crazy, i would think that Clomid and Nolva would be fine for his PCT.

 

[WannaBeBig72]

I would use HCG.

Thanks man...What oral do you think will best serve his purpose, I'm thinking probably Winny?

 

[1392477]

I would go with TBol or Var - less sides but with great strength increases

 

[SwolK]

he does not need an oral for his first cycle. 500mg test is enough IMO

 

[bw1]

he does not need an oral for his first cycle. 500mg test is enough IMO

I agree. If he insists on running an oral I would go with var or tbol

 

[WannaBeBig72]

I agree. If he insists on running an oral I would go with var or tbol

Why not Winny? Will Tbol or Var give him the same kind of hardness as Winny will?

 

[marvelous54]

he does not need an oral for his first cycle. 500mg test is enough IMO

^^^^What he said^^^^

 

[SwolK]

just keep diet clean, and use an AI. that will make him hard enough.
Im just saying that I believe that first cycle should be kept to 1 comound so that you know exactly how you respond to it, and exactly what gains, and side you get from it. Throw the winny(I have never used tbol or var) in with the next cycle so that you can judge how much it affects you based on the previous experiance with out them in cycle. just my .02