hcg

[anthony518]

I am planning to add some HCG to my next cycle. I have been researching it a lot more now that I got the advice here to do so. I was wanting to do a 3 week cycle at weeks 6,7,8 and weeks 13,14, and 15. This would be during a 15 week enanthate at 500mg weekly and eq at 400mg weekly both for 15 weeks. I have read that a 2000 I.U. injection weekly at these times would be best. I also read that when you mix the HCG it is only good for 10 weeks. I can only get HCG at 10000 I.U. per mL at 10mL. Won't this be over kill? If I get the 100000 I.U. will I be able to use it my next cycle? It is not that expensive, so would it be worth it, even if I waste more than half of it?

 

[1UNDER]

I would run it @ 500iu every 3 to 5 days throughout the cycle.2000iu a week is overkill and could run into desensitizing issues(look it up),if used at that rate for to long.In the last week of your cycle hit it at 1000iu everyday for 5 days or so then leave it alone.
Start pct 2 weeks after last test shot.(nolva or clomid)

 

[anthony518]

So just clomid or nolvadex? Not both. Could I run nolvadex and clomid together to avoid having to take hcg. Never have taken it before, and don't want to be sticking my self 6 times a week. 2 200mg eq weekly 2 250 test enan weekly and then the hcg twice weekly. Thats a little much. Do you take the hcg with the regular 22 G 1.5 long or smaller? I understand how important it is, but damn thats a lot of injections and for 15 weeks.

 

[1UNDER]

Take the test and Eq together,you can mix them.That will cut the number of times you inject in half.
HCG you do sub-q.Right in the stomach.Use an insulin pin,you'll hardly even feel it.
You can use clomid and nolvadex together post cycle but in my opinion you don't have to,either one will do just fine for recovery.

 

[anthony518]

So use a insulin pin, and I could get by with only using the Nolvadex, I have heard bad things about Clomid sides. So pct nolvadex only as long as I use the hcg through out the cycle?

 

[1UNDER]

You don't have to use hcg at all for pct.I only use hcg during my cycle to keep my balls nice and plump and in the last week or so i hit the hcg hard.I personally don't use it for pct but there are different opinions on that.Nolva or clomid will be fine alone for pct and yes,for some, clomid has some annoying sides but again in my opinion,it's a little better than nolva for pct.My last 2 cycles i used nolva for pct and it worked great.

 

[anthony518]

Thanks a lot for all of the help. I will take the hcg during the duration of the cycle. Like you said 500 iu every 3 days, then the 1000 everyday for the last five days. Thanks again.

 

[anthony518]

PCT should begin after the last injection and/or AAS intake. More specifically, a relative guideline to begin PCT is within 5-10 days when using long acting esters or 1-3 days when using short acting esters. This PCT protocol should consist of 1,000-1,500 IUs HCG 3x/wk (mod/wed/fri) in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED and, if necessary, 50-100 mgs Clomid ED. The mid/intermittent cycle protocol of 500-1,000 IUs HCG and 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for 7 days consecutively can and should be utilized when necessary during prolonged (12+/wks) or heavy dosage (1,000+mgs/wk) cycles. In addition, blood work should be performed before beginning a cycle and after completing a cycle in order to establish baseline values and evaluate recovery, respectively.

This was in Jenetic's post. It says to not take it more than 7 days in the middle and then for the 3 weeks after your cycle. ANd not to take for prolonged times????

 

[1UNDER]

This was in Jenetic's post. It says to not take it more than 7 days in the middle and then for the 3 weeks after your cycle. ANd not to take for prolonged times????

Like I said there are 100's of opinions on this,if you keep looking you'll find them all.HCG is not nessesary for pct and most people only use it so their nuts don't vanish during heavy cycles.
Nolva and or clomid are all you need for pct,they will put you back in order,don't worry.
Check out other boards as well,see what the general opinion is and then form your own from there.Never listen to what just one person has to say.Karma hits and posts mean nothing when it comes to your own body.
Knowledge is power.Good luck.

 

[anthony518]

thanks. opinions are like assholes, right? j/k

 

[Tobias39]

Take the test and Eq together,you can mix them.That will cut the number of times you inject in half.
HCG you do sub-q.Right in the stomach.Use an insulin pin,you'll hardly even feel it.
You can use clomid and nolvadex together post cycle but in my opinion you don't have to,either one will do just fine for recovery.

You are suppose to inject HCG Sub-q? I always injected it in my muscle and it worked fine... ???

 

[italian_gladiator]

You are suppose to inject HCG Sub-q? I always injected it in my muscle and it worked fine... ???

In the muscle is better.