Hcg

[Busta]

HCG

Is there any benefit in using HCG during a cycle, or should I only use it after? I have a hard time getting my HPTA back to normal so I wanted to know the best way to cycle HCG.

 

[lawnsaver]

I have used it during with success, but from recent info from a Few Gurus, say use it right after with a low dose of nolvadex for 2-3 weeks and start clomid 5 days after last HCG shot.

 

[Zyglamail]

If its a long cycle using it suring a cycle will help to keep testicular atrophy to a minumum and help reduce recovery period at the end of a cycle. The older you are and the longer the cycle are the two main factors in recovery time.

 

[Busta]

Zyg this is my cycle, Please let me know what you think and how I should use HCG with it.

Week----------Dbol---------Test----------Fina-------HCG--------Clomid
1----------------40ed--------500wk--------------------------------------
2----------------40ed--------500wk--------------------------------------
3----------------40ed--------500wk-----------------2500wk----------
4----------------40ed--------500wk-----------------2500 wk-----------
5----------------40ed--------500wk--------------------------------------
6------------------------------500wk-------75ed------------------------
7------------------------------500wk-------75ed-------------------------
8------------------------------500wk-------75ed----3750wk----------
9------------------------------500wk-------75ed----3750wk----------
10--------------------------------------------75 ed------------------------
11--------------------------------------------75ed-------------------------
12------------------------------------------------------3000wk--300+50wk
13---------------------------------------------------------------------50wk
14---------------------------------------------------------------------50wk
15---------------------------------------------------------------------50wk

 

[Zyglamail]

As with everything you may have to experiment a bit to see what works best for you, but if I was on that cycle, here is what I would do.

week 4 and 5, 500IU HCG dialy for the two weeks.
week 10 and 11, 500IU HCG dialy for the two weeks.
start clomid week 12 150mg/ed for 3 weeks.

The reason my HCG recomendations are so low is because large surges of HCG can desensitize the testis to LH, that is not something we want, especially if trying to get them back from atrophy.

On climid, many recommend nolvadex because it takes 20mg of nolva to do the same job as 150mg clomid. However, nolva seems to have a very detrimental impact on IGF01 levels so I think I would just stick on a heavy dose of clomid.

 

[Busta]

So I shouldnt take HCG when I am done with the cycle? Starting to take it 2 week before my last shot of fina will help get the boys back?

 

[Zyglamail]

HCG is a glycoprotien that mimics HCG, while it is present our bodies wont produce it (like AAS shuts down natural test production). Thats why I say take it the last 2 weeks of the cycle. It will reverse atrophy and then the clomid will work from a different angle to help restore test production. So, go ahead and use it, just dont use it after the the cycle with clomid since it will inhibit recovery while your own it but its effect of reversing atrophy will help to speed recovery after your done using it and why your synchronize the ending of HCG use with the start of clomid use.

 

[Busta]

Thanks Zyg, your very helpfull!