Hcg?

[JERSEKID]

Ok so I lucked out and found an MD to prescribe HCG. He told me to take 300iu 3x/week. I'm also taking Test Cyp 2x/week at 200mg per shot. What are the pros and cons on taking HCG during a Test cycle?

 

[Zyglamail]

HCG will keep testis producing test which means they wont shrink. It will increase overall test levels and in turn overall E levels so an AI would be a good idea.

Many claim HCG will desensitize testis but the only scientific evidence I have seen to support that was in very high doses (>2000IU) per injection for extended periods of time and even then it really didnt desensitize there was just a point when more wouldnt increase test output. Low doses as used while on TRT etc dont generally pose any issues at all aside from more E due to more T.

 

[stevesmi]

hcg mimics LH and FSH

if you use hcg its a good idea to stack an AI like aromasin with it and also run a PCT after

I used to be an advocate of hcg but with the newer supplements like T stack Rx and hcgenerate (ES) it really has become obsolete IMHO

 

[Zyglamail]

I personally havent seen enough lab work to convince me the supps work anywhere near as well as HCG/HMG when on a cycle. Additionally I would wager the supps are more expensive as well.

 

[stevesmi]

I personally havent seen enough lab work to convince me the supps work anywhere near as well as HCG/HMG when on a cycle. Additionally I would wager the supps are more expensive as well.

you can experiment yourself. just run gear and let your nuts shrink then start taking those supps and you will notice your nuts plump up

you won't see any lab work showing hcg does a thing either, it will cripple your LH and FSH as it is, much less when you are on gear. hcg is completely unnecessary because of this.. like you said the only thing hcg will do is spike your estrogen levels further .. your T levels are already gonna be sky high because of the gear as it is

 

[Zyglamail]

you won't see any lab work showing hcg does a thing either

HCG will raise your T levels even when on cycle.

 

[stevesmi]

HCG will raise your T levels even when on cycle.

my point is what difference does it make if your T levels are 4000 or 4400? your LH and FSH are still gonna be at 0 right?

 

[JERSEKID]

Ok...so I'm guessing its a good thing to use HCG while on a Test Cycle. I just don't like the fact that it puts more E in your body therefore one needs to take an AI but I heard AI hinders your gains. Is that a true assumption?

 

[WildRocker69]

Ok...so I'm guessing its a good thing to use HCG while on a Test Cycle. I just don't like the fact that it puts more E in your body therefore one needs to take an AI but I heard AI hinders your gains. Is that a true assumption?

If you run aromasin as stevesmi suggested, you shouldn't have any issue with gains. It's a steroidal AI and won't drop your E to nill. It's also a bit friendlier to find the right dose compared to letrozole... overdose that and your E can plummet and your joints will hate you.

Have you run an AI before?

 

[dylangemelli]

aromasin will not hinder gains at all... if used properly, it can help to add to your gains and its also very beneficial in pct as it raises igf levels... just like anything else, as long as its not abused, it can be highly effective...

as far as hcg goes, i would never recommend exceeding 4 weeks of use... i would use hcgenerate before blasting hcg and transitioning to pct...