Hcg on cycle

[Idobehigh]

So I am researching the best I can I find 10 articles about hcg being beneficial on cycle then ill find 10 more articles saying you can use a low dose of clomid on cycle...

I have heard everyone on Ef say hcg on cycle is the way to go, but I wanna hear your opinions on clomid on cycle. I was told from a "friend" you can run clomid on cycle Ed at 25mgs to help your balls from shrinking.

What about hcgenerate es? Isn't that suppose to be the legal hcg could someone get away with that? I'm more asking for scientific purposes lol and because I am just trying to see other options. I am trying to plan a winter cycle but I couldn't give much of a plan because I am still researching right now I'm thinking transdermal test stacked with transdermal dbol I want to see how good it works, and I will be getting mid cycle bloods to post to shut some people up I guess I will have to do stats since I talked about a cycle but most of you know me already..
22 years old
190
15ish bf (i won't start the cycle till I'm 10% or lower I have till winter)
5'9

 

[Zyglamail]

Clomid works on the feedback mechanism to raise test. Estrogen is a side effect of T aromatising and turning to E. So if you take clomid and block the E receptor the body thinks E has dropped and increases test output to raise E.

Keep in mind that there is also a feedback loop in play for test and there will come a point when if the test levels are too high, no amount of clomid is going to fool the body into making more test. Generally speaking T levels used for a cycle are so high that clomid wont be effective or marginally so at causing your testes to release test.

HCG on the other hand mimics luteinizing hormone which cause the testes to produce test. High test levels generally cause the natural release to luteinizing hormone to slow way down and/or stop altogether so the testes dont produce test. Taking HCG will cause the testes to produce test regardless of what the feedback mechanism is telling the body because it works directly on the testes.

 

[stevesmi]

if you want to keep your balls on cycle go with hcgenerate. and then before you kickstart pct run hcg so that you get a nice boost in T levels as the esters are clearing. your LH and FSH will be in the tank anyway. this is the best way i found to use hcg. you will actually notice some fat loss too during this time while the water weight from the cycle is leaving for a nice trim look.

 

[mevarela3]

So can u do it naturally with hcgenerate or hcgenerate es ?

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[Idobehigh]

if you want to keep your balls on cycle go with hcgenerate. and then before you kickstart pct run hcg so that you get a nice boost in T levels as the esters are clearing. your LH and FSH will be in the tank anyway. this is the best way i found to use hcg. you will actually notice some fat loss too during this time while the water weight from the cycle is leaving for a nice trim look.

That's what I figured, I have heard recently tho someone taking 10 pills for 2 weeks near the end of the cycle, is this effective or you think a waste?

 

[stevesmi]

10 pills of what?

 

[stevesmi]

So can u do it naturally with hcgenerate or hcgenerate es ?

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hcg is a drug. hcgenerate is an herbal supplement.

do you think they work the same? i think they work very closely, but i like to use both... if you use both western drugs and eastern medicine together good things happen.

 

[Idobehigh]

10 pills of what?

Someone on here was saying they used 10 pills of hcgen for 2 weeks before pct he is well known I just can't think of his name at the moment. I will probably end up using hcg but I was curious about the other two options