HCG during cycle, post cycle

[Excidium28]

What would a post cycle look like after using HCG during cycle for 12 weeks 2x a week at 500IU.

Week 1-3 HCG 3x W 1000IU, clomid 50mg ED, Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 3-6 Clomid 50mg ED, Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 6-8 clen???

 

[Excidium28]

 

[nydj66]

What would a post cycle look like after using HCG during cycle for 12 weeks 2x a week at 500IU.

Week 1-3 HCG 3x W 1000IU, clomid 50mg ED, Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 3-6 Clomid 50mg ED, Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 6-8 clen???

If you've been using HCG during the cycle then 3 weeks post cycle is probably over kill. When used for PCT, HCG is best used the last 2-3 weeks on cycle for 2 reasons:

1.) HCG itself is suppressive of the hypothalmus (and pituitary) so it's use post cycle will delay recovery

2.) HCG will restore testicular function (and raise testosterone levels) even with gear still in your system.

For example, if you were using test enanthate on your cycle, you wait 2 weeks after the last enanthate shot to start clomid anyway. Using HCG during this time (the 2 idle weeks) is perfect; it will make sure the testes are ready for recovery and it will keep your testosterone levels high even as the enanthate is working out of your system.

Then clomid and/or nolvadex is used for 3 weeks to hasten the recovery of the hypothalmus and pituitary.

 

[Excidium28]

If you've been using HCG during the cycle then 3 weeks post cycle is probably over kill. When used for PCT, HCG is best used the last 2-3 weeks on cycle for 2 reasons:

1.) HCG itself is suppressive of the hypothalmus (and pituitary) so it's use post cycle will delay recovery

2.) HCG will restore testicular function (and raise testosterone levels) even with gear still in your system.

For example, if you were using test enanthate on your cycle, you wait 2 weeks after the last enanthate shot to start clomid anyway. Using HCG during this time (the 2 idle weeks) is perfect; it will make sure the testes are ready for recovery and it will keep your testosterone levels high even as the enanthate is working out of your system.

Then clomid and/or nolvadex is used for 3 weeks to hasten the recovery of the hypothalmus and pituitary.

So your againts using HCG during cycle? only post cycle? And if HCG used during cycle than no need for it in post cycle only clomid and nolvadex for 3 weeks? ??

 

[nydj66]

With a 12 week cycle like yours, HCG use during the cycle is a good idea; it prevents the testes from getting atrophied in the first place. For the 8 week cycles I typically do, I wait until the last 2 weeks to begin HCG (basically to save money and for the reasons described in my first post).

Since you have used HCG throughout the cycle, you're testes should be at full size and function and it is not necessary to use it post cycle. Certainly not for 3 weeks.

That being said, it wouldn't hurt you to use HCG post cycle now. But since HCG will supress the HPTA in the same way AAS does, you want to make sure that you time it such that your HCG use stops and clomid/nolvadex use begins just as the gear has cleared your system. What that timing is depends on what you were taking on cycle.

Clomid/nolvadex use should begin:

1 week after last shot for Proprionate and acetate esters

2 weeks after last shot for enanthate and cypionate

3 weeks after last shot for sust, deca, and EQ

The day after the last pill for orals


Use the longest time period above that applies to your situation.

 

[slat1]

Since you used HCG twice a week during the cycle. I would just run Clomid when the esters clear.